Killings of off-duty Military personel.

You don't know what I'm 'getting at' because you are too thick to realise that what you said vindicates my point...

But hey ho...you carry on showing yourself up.

Softus would be proud of his latest disciple... ;)

Well, you know what they say about someone who had to resort to name-calling.

So at this point I feel I need say no more.

Merry Christmas.

You have no more to say because you have been caught out spouting b*llocks as usual ;)

Happy yuletide
 
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So ellal, is all killing immoral, or only if the victim is innocent?
 
So ellal, is all killing immoral, or only if the victim is innocent?
All killing is essentially immoral regardless...

Until that simple concept is accepted there will be no end to cycles of violence...

That of course will probably never happen because numpties (like many on here) find it hard to change their spots... ;)
 
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All killing is essentially immoral regardless...

Absolute nonsense.

Killing has saved millions of lives.

Quite so. It's just a matter of killing the right people!

Indeed.
In the comfortable fluffy bubble ellal lives in, all killing is pointless.
It's nonsense. He won't have it though.

I like him, he's funny, but he just needs to rattle his bonce on a Sunday. :LOL:

(He f*cking hates me more than he hates you JBR) :LOL: :LOL:
 
So ignoring the silly numpty responses, and the obviously 'one-sided' viewpoints, the sad fact still seems to remain that nation states, of all sorts, commit or are complicit in the wanton act of killing civilians. I'll ignore the killing of off-duty military for now, 'cos I don't believe it's possible for military personnel to be 'off-duty'. If you're engaged in fighting the enemy then surely you're fair game on or off-duty, in uniform or not.

Now, we are aware, and some might say subjected to, propogandistic terms to explain and diminish our reaction to such events, when they are committed in our name. Most of those terms are also attempts to persuade us that our governments are acting morally, out-of-necessity, in-our-best-interests or against-aggression, etc.

Disregarding for now which nation state started the conflict(s), it all comes down, IMHO, to the competitive mentality of men to own or control the best resources, land, access to suitable mates, or even the 'current moral judgement'.
So, is the killing of innocent civilians perpetuated, under the guise of 'war-on-terror', war-on-drugs', war-against-dictatorship', etc merely the act of the collective competitive nature of humanity?

Now, I think it's necessary, temporarily, to switch over to another thread; Does God exist, or whatever the thread was called, and dicuss whether man was created in God's image, linking that with our innate competitive nature. I hope you'll see where I'm going with this.

Edit: Just arrived back from t'other post, and methinks, that's enough for a little while. Maybe I'll pick up on another direction later, i.e. man's competitive nature driving him to own or control the best resources, land, access to mates, etc. In other words the socio, geo-political reasons behind wars and the pursuit of governments to justify the reasons to the populace, hence the need to diminish or increase the deplorability of killing civilians.
 
Does Ella actually contribute anything to discussions other than deriding people?

He does, but it's just his way of throwing a sandal.

Mind you, he ain't half gone through some sandals over the years. :LOL:
 
yes I think it is part of our nature to try for more, for better and we evolved to do that and so did our enemy. to deny that is to deny being human at all and that's what super brains like Ellal cannot see. there has never been a point in history where man has not killed for gain even though every death is a loss innocent or not, and there never WILL be a time when man doesn't wage wars against each other.
 
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