Language used in parliament yesterday - your thoughts?

[festive]

You seem to think that it is only sensitive snowflakes that have responded to or noticed the combative language used in the commons. Not the case. The path chosen by Boris and his immediate conspirators is deliberate and calculated. It's working too. The very fact however that the tone of language has garnered publicity due to its caustic content, means that it will become commonplace amongst the masses and ultimately its impact will become diluted to those who will see through the ruse.

Those of a lesser intelligence will (physically) act upon it and give Boris what he wants. Boris garners support from servile sycophantic, angry stoked up commoners and pits them against privaleged Parliament. Cummings will be sitting smug with a grin and a glass of red wine. He is a very clever man and ideally positioned in his role.

First of all lets ensure this is language used by both sides, if you can't begin to ack that you're a lost case. Then using that admission your logic immediately fails. Why?

It takes two to tango im afraid to imply this whole scenario has been orchestrated and manipulated by that little man who i dont particularly look the like of either is guess what a bit biased i do believe!

 

[noseall]

First of all lets ensure this is language used by both sides

Undoubtedly. I know it is not unique.

What is unique however is Brexit. The UK has never been so divided. It doesn't take a genius like Cummings to understand how to push the buttons of angry brexers. Most angry exchanges in the HoC go unnoticed and barely get mid page coverage. But this is Brexit and is being touted as a civil war with combative language to match.

 

[festive]

Undoubtedly. I know it is not unique.

What is unique however is Brexit. The UK has never been so divided. It doesn't take a genius like Cummings to understand how to push the buttons of angry brexers. Most angry exchanges in the HoC go unnoticed and barely get mid page coverage. But this is Brexit and is being touted as a civil war with combative language to match.

The irony being on here this forum take a look, do you want me to pick out the people who are quoting this as you are saying or implying this is being whipped up into us against the EU or escalating violence civil war etc, it's all coming from pro remain people on here... strange that if that's the case he's manipulating you too.

 

[durhamplumber]

I have no doubt your belief in brexit is with honourable intention, but you are being sold brexit by people with no integrity, no scruples.

You think if you say things a thousand times we are suddenly going to believe you?

 

[noseall]

he's manipulating you too.

I have no desire to personally harm any MP's. I'm happy to insult them from my keyboard. Remoaners wish to cooperate with the EU not fight with it. Remoaners as well as many other commentators are as free to criticise Boris's combative brexit language as anyone else.

 

[noseall]

You think if you say things a thousand times we are suddenly going to believe you?

Leave UK seemed to do a good job on gullible brexers, so why not?

 

[Notch7]

The irony being on here this forum take a look, do you want me to pick out the people who are quoting this as you are saying or implying this is being whipped up into us against the EU or escalating violence civil war etc, it's all coming from pro remain people on here... strange that if that's the case he's manipulating you too.

Geoffrey Cox and Boris Johnson both came out fighting -they had no other option available.

The opposition made a big mistake by getting angry, which made them look weak -they also used confrontational language, which played against them, as we can see on this forum - because it allowed Brexiteers to justify Johnsons stance -which is fair enough.

But Johnson was playing to a wider audience than the commons -it was and is a strategy. The words like surrender bill are cynically focus group tested Cummings to manipulate Brexit voters -for a general election.

There are rumours Johnson may be stoking up anger so he can impose a national emergency and push through a no deal.

 

[durhamplumber]

and push through a no deal.

Suits me

 

[durhamplumber]

it was and is a strategy. T

Indeed,,,a do lurrrrrv aPM with a plan,,,

 

[festive]

Geoffrey Cox and Boris Johnson both came out fighting -they had no other option available.

The opposition made a big mistake by getting angry, which made them look weak -they also used confrontational language, which played against them, as we can see on this forum - because it allowed Brexiteers to justify Johnsons stance -which is fair enough.

But Johnson was playing to a wider audience than the commons -it was and is a strategy. The words like surrender bill are cynically focus group tested Cummings to manipulate Brexit voters -for a general election.

There are rumours Johnson may be stoking up anger so he can impose a national emergency and push through a no deal.

Thanks Notch this on the other hand imho is a balanced view on the accounts of late.

Agree it could well be Boris used the surrender reference as one in his back pocket for GE etc just as the faux outrage of the remainers was used against Boris and anything he said. As I referred to before it's a bit like a south America football match going on I dont believe most of the fouls or falls they're fake and desperate. I challenge remainer supporters who are being conned as the bullied victims just much as we brexiters are allegedly made out as the aggressors ( I cant believe I'm typing this)

But I do know and firmly believe it is the remainers all along that never wanted to leave are just as responsible here, it wasn't just about The tories fking up Brexit.
A why did they (pro remain) ever agree to article 50
B why didnt they (pro remain) campaign early on to remain instead of just voting against tms deal etc.yes those tories who blocked tms deal weren't all part of JRMs gang.

And I don't believe surrender is as Milliband referred to stirring up some sort of war between us and the EU. That's hysteria.

Once again youll find in all my posts not once do i refer to remainers as anything but pro remain etc.

Whereas an example of a remainer on our forums refers to pro brexit as 'quitters' which we all know is used not just as their preference in denigrating their opinion but as a slant on their mentality. See what i mean?
With a slogan on all posts 'Bo llox to Brexit' now you tell me who comes across better behaved here?

 

[durhamplumber]

Geoffrey Cox and Boris Johnson both came out fighting -they had no other option available.

And that is wrong is it? You find fault in everything every Brexit heroes do,because your views are so warped...

 

[durhamplumber]

What else has he got.

Common sense 7 - 0 Boris and his barmy brexers.

Gina miller 2 - 0 Boris and his barmy brexers.

Brexit hero ref wins...1...remainers 0...Only score you need worry about

 

[durhamplumber]

Undoubtedly. I know it is not unique.

What is unique however is Brexit. The UK has never been so divided. It doesn't take a genius like Cummings to understand how to push the buttons of angry brexers. Most angry exchanges in the HoC go unnoticed and barely get mid page coverage. But this is Brexit and is being touted as a civil war with combative language to match.

Simple...All the angst because Remain are sour losers and will not accept the ref result..

 

[noseall]

ref wins...1...remainers 0...Only score you need worry about

I each actually. Looks like the decider will be close but Remain will nick it.

 

[durhamplumber]

I each actually. Looks like the decider will be close but Remain will nick it.

No decider.