There is also the 'black police federation', is there a whitene?
Andy
No. Just like there's no such thing as white pride. In an attempt to make the world a fairer place it has discriminated against what I would call our own. (Which includes black).
The Police, themselves recognised the need for positive discimination to counter the institutional racism endemic within police forces and took some positive action to remedy it.
But you perceive that as a negative action against white people. So discuss your fears and sense of insecurity, discrimination with your representative instead of using social media to raise racial tension.
I have seen countless people, who I have visited in my job, that have been brought up all their long lives in areas of Birmingham which are now completely out of recognition to the country they fought for.
I appreciate your concern, I can't find my way round the bullring anymore, and I certainly don't recognise the old rag market!
If you ask the people who fought, did you ask them if they fought for truth and justice? Or did they fight for the landscape, for the streets, for the buildings? Don't forget to ask the ones with "swarthy faces".
You misunderstand the oath "for Queen and country" They don't mean just the white bits, or the bits that you want to keep. It's what the "country" stands for.
Is that respectful to them?
I think it's disrespectful to suggest that they fought for some real estate and not the the real reasons.
Has anyone given consideration to the neighbourhood they once knew? Were they asked whether they wanted to be integrated and become a tiny minority in an area they once played in as a kid but is now out of all recognition?
Representatives, MPs, etc, etc.
I have seen this first hand many times. These areas are NOT dangerous or anything and the culture and diverse foods are incredible. But the question of respect is a one way street to these dear old folk, and woe betide anyone for saying it!
So your argument now is that the immigrants are disrespectful.
Or are you suggesting that they are responsible for the disrespect shown by the indigenous population?
And then you suggest that anyone who complains about the disrespect shown towardss the elderly are somehow punished by society?
And, as we all know, once 'something' has been introduced it's infinitely harder to retract or repeal if there are ramifications further down the line you have not considered in your quest to look equal, when in fact the discrimination and lack of respect has simply shifted elsewhere.
This comment is based on your previous assumptions. If they are not true, then this comment is also false.
You're still not responding to the OP's post. Why not?
You've gone all out to denounce immigration and its effect on UK . Well that argument has already been done and dusted in another thread and rejected in offical reports.
You've argued that that there is just too much of it. Well, talk to your representative, instead of making racist remarks on social foums.
You've complained about positive discrimination, quoting some false examples, in the pocess, (and well supported by your erstwhile colleagues.
) Yet you've not really offered any convincing argument against it. You've even tried to suggest that some definition of art forms are racist (again supported by your klan.
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Some have said they dont' really give a toss, but wade in with racist or abusive comments.
You've argued that racism is evident between the immigrants so it must be OK.
You've tried to draw a comparison of black-on-white violence with white-on-black violence and the subsequent invetsigations, to no avail.
You've suggested that because my viewpoints are different to your I must be a troll and I'm posting bullshit and lies.
I've been accused of "parping on" about the Lawrence case because I'm sticking up for black people. I think anyone who has followed my comments know my views on all forms of racial (and other forms of)prejudice.
You've suggested that we should wait for the injustice to become sufficently of a problem to make it possible to deal with it.
You've suggested that my views are linked to the "down-troddens" but so many immigrants that I know are making a far greater success of their lives than the typical racist posters who frequent GD forum. you've suggested that anyone who speaks out about racism is an anarchist and agitator.
Viz a viz your comment: "woe betide anyone for saying it"
You've now resorted to the emotions of the war heroes and misinterpreting what they fought for.
You've even suggested that the half dozen or so members of the klan are the majority.
You've tried arguing that the immigrants won't join the Armed Forces and been shot down. (S'cuse the pun).
You've discussed the improvements in this county but you've fogotten about the pillaging of foreign lands and thought it was all down to our own "blood and sweat". You've even suggested that in the last twenty years governments are somehow responsible for destroying "this land".
You've even tried suggesting that the automatic sensor on DIYnot allows some discrimination but somehow restricts racist comments against black people.
There has been precious little discussion more relevant to the OP, there's been some: i.e "underdog" discussion.
That'll be because everytime any post arrives that provides these racists with an opportunity they immediately start posting their biased opinions.
I would offer you the same response that I offered to Dextranous. How do you think your employer would react to your views, if they were aware of the opinions that you post on here?
To those in positions of trust, e.g teachers, parents, etc. Have you considered the effect that your tutoring has on future generations? They grow up with your biased opinions and inbred hatred.
Yet, you're happy providing one face to society when you're face-to-face with it. Then use social media, with its cloak of anonymity to foster racial tension. And when challenged, you retreat to multiple other arguments which is later shown to be fallacious arguments.