BTW for once I'm actually enjoying a civilized discussion on GD where posters are arguing without too much ad hominem.
Well here's a big one for you, BT:
There are just too many in MY country!
If ‘they’ had their way we’d keep taking more and more on board in this country until the lifeboat capsizes! Unfortunately, ‘the boat’ in terms of a country doesn’t physically capsize. It happens and is happening, but in small and subtle ways which progress like a cancer. (You have to be of a certain age to see and understand, first hand, the before and after of what my country has become).
Anyone else notice when they portray the numbers and faces of the hundreds who have paid the ultimate price for our freedoms just how many, or few, are non-white?
I don’t see much positive discrimination to recruit more swarthy faces in our war. It’s certainly not representative of our large and diverse culture so I wonder what conclusion or generalization we can draw from this without being called racist?
For generations, our ancestors improved this land through their own sweat and blood.
In the last couple of decades, governments run by people like you, have done the polar opposite. They have virtually sabotaged our ancestors' legacy.
.. it has been royally fooked up for them.
When will people like you come to their senses and realise that we can't keep importing alien cultures or extra millions of people without major problems?
"He would (say that), wouldn't he?", Mandy Rice-Davies
An excellent example of circumstantial Ad Hominem argument but potentially valid.
to take issue with another of your points:
Ethnic make-up in "our war".
1. 1993 Foreign born immigrants in UK 7% rising to 11.4% in 2012.
Micilin has already provided the figure of 6.6% current make-up.
Of course immigrants are not qualifed to serve unless they meet the residency requirements.
http://www.army.mod.uk/join/20149.aspx
But I wonder how the experience of the subsequent generations affect their willingness to serve.
I would be interested in finding out, but I can hazard a guess.
A friend (Asian/African origin) retired from the British Army as a major. He was denied a UK passport. He was rewarded with a travel warrant. His country of origin would not have welcomed his return. Ergo, he was effectively stateless.
2. How many of the 11.4% are here for various other reasons rather than to enter the military, e.g. work in NHS and other institutions, personal, study, intention to return home, etc.
3. Not all immigrants have "swarthy faces", so your statement is based on perception.
4. The military is in more than 80 countries around the world.
http://www.army.mod.uk/operations-deployments/22753.aspx
It would make sense to utilise immigrants' skills and cultures in those foreign countries. So the make-up of those stationed in UK may be just your perception.
5. A statement on the Army website appears to discredit your statement:
"Soldiers from across the Commonwealth and other countries have a long and proud tradition of service in the British Army. That tradition continues today."
6. The military is being reduced in strength. Perhaps this has a an effect.
And finally
7. "Our wars". I, personally, would have refused to fight in some of "our" recent wars. It's hardly surprising that many indigenous and immigrant people are dissuaded from recruiting.
