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Despite the woke view of what a black man may do as an aspirational role model for the young black youth who are disenfranchised and underrepresented, I'm just worried what kind of roll model a black man going around shooting, stabbing and killing people will set. :cautious:

Art imitates life.
 
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It's interesting, but very concerning, that some use fictional characters to reinforce their bigotry.
Ian Fleming was a racist and a sexist. That's probably why all the Bond villains were foreigners, and the fictional James Bond was from an out-of-date patriarchal, misogynist society, when misogyny was politely disguised as male chauvinism.
It appeals to some.
 
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I fully expect the new Bond will be a none smoking, none drinking, gay black actor, who is confined permanently to a wheelchair..
Ardent followers of the racist, sexist, homophobic, colonial James Bond might be disappointed with the latest books:
Ian Fleming 'was sexist, racist and sadistic': New Bond author says his book is well-written... unlike the originals
African-born writer felt Fleming's 'racist' attitude was inappropriate
Boyd, who was born in Ghana in 1952 ...., said: 'It's unbelievable to read now. I think if you were of that privileged upper class, born at the beginning of the 20th century, you were probably racist, sexist, right wing and anti-Semitic.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...emings-sexist-racist-sadistic-James-Bond.html


Anthony Horowitz is the only author in recent years to have been invited by Ian Fleming Publications to write successive, official James Bond novels

Horowitz followed in the footsteps of William Boyd and Solo in 2013
The book will be published in May 2022.
https://www.jamesbondlifestyle.com/... title and cover of,May 2022 by Jonathan Cape.​
It looks like those seeking solace in a fictional racist, sexist, homophobic, colonial hero will have to look elsewhere because James Bond has gone 'woke'.
 
What a great idea - ban his books and the films.

You clearly spend your life looking for bogeymen in certain areas. Who next?
You could argue that he legitimised violence against women:
“All women love semi-r*pe. They love to be taken. It was his sweet brutality against my bruised body that had made his act of love so piercingly beautiful.”
The Spy Who Loved Me. Ian Fleming. 1962

“I don’t think there is anything particularly wrong about hitting a woman... An openhanded slap is justified--if all other alternatives fail and there has been plenty of warning. If a woman is a bitch, or hysterical, or bloody-minded continually, then I’d do it. I think a man has to be slightly advanced, ahead of the woman.”
Sean Connery, on his acting in From Russia With Love. 1963​
 
Afraid I don't think the books relate that well to the films. Films based on books often don't. It's also interesting to compare with many many other films as well and also in areas other than the ones you mention.

Fact of life We are not all sexist go around hitting or raping women. Some do and always have done. Employment of women has been marred to some extent by the fact that they are the ones that actually carry babies. Go back in time and many women would choose to remain at home and look after them. That can mean very long absences from work. Times change in various ways that have an effect on these aspects but I'll leave those changes for you to work out for yourself. Traditions always take a while to correct themselves when they can.

Your quotes show what sort of person you are. Has it ever struck you that they do nothing what so ever about current situations? They are just a blame game and achieve nothing.

I happened on a report on the first statue of note to be taken down. Rhodes in Cape Town University. One interesting thing about it was that the people who were involved were there to talk about it along with reasons. It's possible to look at a number of what could be called ex colonial countries and what has happened to them despite change of leaders. You can even include SA where there has been a pretty distinct change.
 
It's interesting, but very concerning, that some use fictional characters to reinforce their bigotry.
Ian Fleming was a racist and a sexist. That's probably why all the Bond villains were foreigners, and the fictional James Bond was from an out-of-date patriarchal, misogynist society, when misogyny was politely disguised as male chauvinism.
It appeals to some.
of course the villians were all foreigners he worked for MI6 which deals with foreign intelligence and overseas threats
 
Afraid I don't think the books relate that well to the films. Films based on books often don't.
But James Bond is well depicted in the films, as a racist, misogynist, homophobic as he is illustrated in the books.


It's also interesting to compare with many many other films as well and also in areas other than the ones you mention.
There are plenty of other examples of racism, misogyny and homophobia, both in the books. and the films.
Exampls such as throwing money at an Indian with the remark, "that'll keep you in curry for while", and throwing a cat at a Korean, with the remark, "enjoy", and other such racist comments.

Fact of life We are not all sexist go around hitting or raping women. Some do and always have done.
Of course, but to glorify such behaviour as the heroic exploits of an Englishman is not befitting, don't you think?

Employment of women has been marred to some extent by the fact that they are the ones that actually carry babies.
WTF!
If you must represent yourself as a sexist, I'm sure you could do it much more subtly than that. :rolleyes:

Go back in time and many women would choose to remain at home and look after them.
I can see that you're not comfortable with being aware of the changing societal expectations from the genders.

That can mean very long absences from work.
Are you not comfortable with maternity leave? You think that women are incapable of raising a family and pursuing a career? :rolleyes:


Times change in various ways that have an effect on these aspects but I'll leave those changes for you to work out for yourself. Traditions always take a while to correct themselves when they can.
Of course times change, and so do the expectations and the acceptable practices in society. I suggest you try catching up on modern day society.

Your quotes show what sort of person you are. Has it ever struck you that they do nothing what so ever about current situations? They are just a blame game and achieve nothing.
:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: You think it's acceptable to suggest that women want to, and should stay at home to look after the kids, and be denied a career, and hero worship a women beater? :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
And you find my comments objectional.


I happened on a report on the first statue of note to be taken down. Rhodes in Cape Town University. One interesting thing about it was that the people who were involved were there to talk about it along with reasons. It's possible to look at a number of what could be called ex colonial countries and what has happened to them despite change of leaders. You can even include SA where there has been a pretty distinct change.
Very interesting, but WTF does it have to do with you stuck in a colonial, patriarchal, misogynist, racist, homophobic past?
 
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of course the villians were all foreigners he worked for MI6 which deals with foreign intelligence and overseas threats

:LOL:bonkers innit

the basics are just lost on some
The villains were all foreign, and treated with racist connotations.
Koreans eating dogs and cats, Indians eating nothing but curry, etc.
The racism wasn't limited to Ian Fleming nor James Bond. Roger Moore made notes of racist events by the film crew.
LIVE AND LET DIE saw Roger Moore keep a set diary which recounted racist slurs by one of the producers on the James Bond set
The 007 Diaries: Filming Live and Let Die saw the star reveal some shocking behaviour by Bond producer Harry Saltzman.
...Roger claimed Saltzman had mistreated restaurant waiters and shouted “N*****!” on set at the props man,
The Live and Let Die shoot was taking place in 1970s Louisiana so Roger convinced Saltzman to call the props man something else. In the end, the producer settled on “Chalky”.
https://www.express.co.uk/entertain...diary-James-Bond-set-racism-JFK-assassination
It wasn't just Roger Moore who recognised the racism in the films and on the sets.

every Black person in Live And Let Die was on the side of evil. It’s the fact that multiple West Indian and Caribbean religions and cultures were misused during this film.
such as the stereotyping of Black people, the co-opting and misappropriation of diasporic religions and cultures, and the ridiculous preoccupation with virginity and women’s sexuality.
Of course, it would’ve had major race issues in its original novel form – Fleming was not known for being the most open-minded about race – but the film’s reliance on the Blaxploitation genre and its stereotypes about Black people kicks it up a notch.
it’s framed as a world where black people aren’t on the side of good.
https://www.themarysue.com/bond-girl-live-and-let-die/


This one has plenty of potentially offensive racial and sexual politics for that matter – but with Bond the latter is kind of a given.
https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/live-and-let-die-revisting-roger-moores-first-james-bond-movie/
But James Bond is a fictional character, it's just so funny to see grown men idolize a quintessentially English, racist, homophobic misogynist.
 
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