Lucy Letby case - Evidence discussion thread

I think you'll find that she had to go not only because of her incompetence, but also the fact that she lied about who found the crucial DNA evidence...

And it wasn't the establishment!

Yet she bleats on about 'being made a scapegoat', whilst the real victim still hasn't got any compensation...

How many other innocent people are still suffering because the system always tries to protect itself!
That’s disgusting, but it does happen more than you think.
 
Back to Letby, other questions have arisen...

Not sure if this has been fully reported before but news yesterday.

"Fresh doubts were raised about the conviction of 'killer' nurse Lucy Letby last night, with the bombshell revelation of police notes suggesting the jury was misled over key evidence.
The documents raise serious questions over the courtroom claim that Letby was the common link between all the suspicious incidents involving babies at the Chester hospital where she worked.
And the dramatic development comes as an expert cited by the prosecution prepares to go public to say his research was misrepresented in court."

"The papers show that when the chief prosecution witness, Dr Dewi Evans, originally looked at those 28 cases, Letby was absent for ten of them – more than a third. But the jury did not hear that"
 
Back to Letby, other questions have arisen...

Not sure if this has been fully reported before but news yesterday.

"Fresh doubts were raised about the conviction of 'killer' nurse Lucy Letby last night, with the bombshell revelation of police notes suggesting the jury was misled over key evidence.
The documents raise serious questions over the courtroom claim that Letby was the common link between all the suspicious incidents involving babies at the Chester hospital where she worked.
And the dramatic development comes as an expert cited by the prosecution prepares to go public to say his research was misrepresented in court."

"The papers show that when the chief prosecution witness, Dr Dewi Evans, originally looked at those 28 cases, Letby was absent for ten of them – more than a third. But the jury did not hear that"

So let me get this straight, female Israeli hostages have been released by Hamas and have reported to the world that that they have been both held captive and abused by the UNITED NATIONS and your biggest concern is about a nurse who kills babys.

OK.
 
So let me get this straight, female Israeli hostages have been released by Hamas and have reported to the world that that they have been both held captive and abused by the UNITED NATIONS and your biggest concern is about a nurse who kills babys.

OK.
This is actually the Letby thread :rolleyes:

But talking about killing babies, you don't seem to give a toss about the number of innocent babies and children that the state of israel has indiscriminately killed!

So your rant is rather self defeating ;)
 
`its very difficult to form an opinion from this distance. But I cannot imagine the legal team would put this amount of energy in to a case they did not personally believe was a miscarriage.
 
What is this "expert panel" and who organised it? I have read three reports now but I can't find the answer!
A panel of experts, chaired by Dr Shoo Lee who said...

The expert panel included “some of the most experienced and distinguished paediatric specialists in the world”, from the US, the UK, Germany, Sweden and Japan"

"One of the UK’s most eminent neonatologists, Prof Neena Modi, a former president of the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health, is one of the 14 experts who analysed the cases of 17 babies Letby allegedly harmed.

Modi said there were “very, very plausible reasons for these babies’ deaths” and that, across all 17 cases, there was a combination of babies being “in the wrong place, delivered in the wrong place, delayed diagnosis and inappropriate or absent treatment”

So maybe another hospital baby death scandal?
 
A panel of experts, chaired by Dr Shoo Lee who said...

The expert panel included “some of the most experienced and distinguished paediatric specialists in the world”, from the US, the UK, Germany, Sweden and Japan"

"One of the UK’s most eminent neonatologists, Prof Neena Modi, a former president of the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health, is one of the 14 experts who analysed the cases of 17 babies Letby allegedly harmed.

Modi said there were “very, very plausible reasons for these babies’ deaths” and that, across all 17 cases, there was a combination of babies being “in the wrong place, delivered in the wrong place, delayed diagnosis and inappropriate or absent treatment”

So maybe another hospital baby death scandal?

I know all that. I just wanted more information on the background. How did it come into existence, who arranged it and when. How long have they been working on this. It just seems to have materialised today out of nowhere. I am not trying to making any type of point.
 
I know all that. I just wanted more information on the background. How did it come into existence, who arranged it and when. How long have they been working on this. It just seems to have materialised today out of nowhere. I am not trying to making any type of point.
David Davies had a big hand in it I believe.
 

HELLO, Double Dave here. Despite Brexit cementing my reputation for being thick as mince, I’m 90 per cent sure Lucy Letby is innocent. I could also help these obvious miscarriages of justice:
The Menendez brothers
Like Lucy Letby, a victim of trial by media. Hungry for ratings, Netflix accused them of murdering their parents and ignored the compelling evidence they were victims of child abuse just because there wasn’t any. And to think these men were multi-millionaires and natural Republican voters who would have backed Trump to the hilt.
Fred West
A clear case of mistaken identity. With his wiry hair and bushy sideburns, Fred was a dead ringer for Mungo Jerry frontman Ray Dorset – who appeared on Top of the Pops when it was hosted by Jimmy Savile. Coincidence? Hardly. Of course, it’s too late for poor old Fred now. Rose West is guilty, however. That’s a separate issue.
Dennis Nilsen
Accused of picking up men and murdering them in a variety of ways. But what if he wasn’t gay? What if he just preferred men’s company? Then the whole case falls apart. Nilsen, a normal heterosexual chap, died behind bars for wanting to talk about football, cars and DIY without silly women giggling and interrupting. I find that disgusting.
Vlad the Impaler
Did Vlad’s supposed crimes really happen? Certainly a wealth of historical evidence exists about his life, brutal nature and fondness for impaling, but there is one fatal flaw: all the witnesses and so-called victims were European. Having dealt directly with the EU, I know how mendacious they are. I’d stake my career on his never having killed anyone.
Hannibal Lecter
It always raises eyebrows when I protest the innocence of eminent psychiatrist Hannibal Lecter. Yes, I admit he is seen sautéing the brains of actor Ray Liotta in the 2001 fly-on-the-wall documentary Hannibal which almost certainly contributed to the actor’s sad demise in 2022, but it is emphatically not murder. Liotta was chatting throughout.
Harold Shipman
Supposedly killed 284 victims over a 30-year period. But once I drilled down into the facts I realised a nice old chap like him couldn’t be a serial killer, because he had a beard like a jolly grandpa. Though he was a doctor and they do go on strike, embarrassing good governments, so they’ve got their evil side. Let’s mark this one unsolved.
Jack the Ripper
Various innocents have been accused of the murders, from the Queen’s grandson to artist Walter Sickert. But who, at the time, would have had a grudge against society and the necessary experience of dissecting things? The answer is obvious: Charles Darwin. To prove we’re descended from monkeys. Case closed. And with a mind like mine arguing her case, Letby will be soon be free.
 
I just wanted more information on the background. How did it come into existence, who arranged it and when. How long have they been working on this. It just seems to have materialised today out of nowhere.
According to the Independent...

"Dr Lee had previously given counter-evidence concerning air embolisms during Letby’s appeal, but the judge said this was inadmissible as he was not called by her defence at the original trial. The professor said he was first contacted in October 2023, after Letby was convicted, and did not know his paper had been used in the trial"
 
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