Lucy Letby case - Evidence discussion thread

Err, yes it is boyo...

Transam would need to carefully consider the evidence if she is found guilty ?

Assuming it’s sound and up snuff

She would be off to the next

Life

Read here

Short memory haven't you boyo. Smoking gun up yours boyo.

Er no boyo
Evidence was not sound and up to snuff and you have ignored other comments I made on the caper

You are a porkie pier noseal so jog on you fruit cake / boyo

Take a tablet :giggle: ;) Or in your case a laxative so as to clear yer ead
 
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Er no boyo
Evidence was not sound and up to snuff and you have ignored other comments I made on the caper

You are a porkie pier noseal so jog on you fruit cake / boyo

Take a tablet :giggle: ;) Or in your case a laxative so as to clear yer ead
So if I understand transam correctly, he decides when evidence is 'up to snuff' and when capital punishment should be inflicted. :rolleyes:
 
Interesting article in the grauniad, it goes over a lot of what has already been raised, but it appears that the neo natal unit was accessible by some back stairs using a key pad entry, not a recordable swipe card. This is in addition to the wrong swipe card evidence being presented, The other point made is that the prosecution failed to disclose they approached then rejected a statistics expert who questioned their approach regarding the likelihood of LL being present at or before the deaths. A new legal team and experts has been appointed to make a case for a review but in the meantime the inquiry proceeds on the basis of guilt having been established.

It must be very difficult for the parents to deal with these conflicting approaches.

 
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At the end of the day, not a single witness saw her do anything.
1. No witnesses
2. No motive
3. Back stairs used by many staff with no records of who came and went
4. Statistics expert sacked on orders of cps
5. CPS failed to disclose this.
6. Medical evidence challenged by specialists
 
1. No witnesses
2. No motive
3. Back stairs used by many staff with no records of who came and went
4. Statistics expert sacked on orders of cps
5. CPS failed to disclose this.
6. Medical evidence challenged by specialists

=scapegoat.
 
=scapegoat.
Plus she spoke freely when interviewed by the police , not the “no comment “ that the cynical/professional criminal usually does. The police must have thought all their Christmas’s were coming. We have to accept the verdict but thank god for the criminal cases review body that can look at it again.
 
I've been curious about the statistics. There is some info on premature births here. They show differences in regions, ethnic aspects and total averages.

Any degree of premature birth can result in problems. The earlier they are the more severe they are likely to be. Relating this to deaths and averaging all hospitals will not show spikes unless all occur at the same time. Given we have a what may be increasing 53,000 of these births a year it suggests that more useful statistical info could be around relating to spikes and variation in size.

LOL Just me wondering how it could be done Still no good really as some sort of weighting would be needed to account for the degree of how premature and numbers of them. if for instance there happened to be 5 times the usual number likely to die more would be expected to die. The other problem is the outcomes related to how premature may well vary. Averages are used again and different studies show differing results.
 
I've been curious about the statistics. There is some info on premature births here. They show differences in regions, ethnic aspects and total averages.

Any degree of premature birth can result in problems. The earlier they are the more severe they are likely to be. Relating this to deaths and averaging all hospitals will not show spikes unless all occur at the same time. Given we have a what may be increasing 53,000 of these births a year it suggests that more useful statistical info could be around relating to spikes and variation in size.

LOL Just me wondering how it could be done Still no good really as some sort of weighting would be needed to account for the degree of how premature and numbers of them. if for instance there happened to be 5 times the usual number likely to die more would be expected to die. The other problem is the outcomes related to how premature may well vary. Averages are used again and different studies show differing results.
At the outset the statistics prof was asked what the chances were of a nurse being on duty for all the deaths. The prof said you first have to look at all possible explanations for increase in deaths. She was taken on, then later sacked when - according to the grauniad - the prosecutor said we don't need that evidence. The prosecution relied on the assumption that the door entry data was sufficient. It appears that is now also challenged, plus there was a separate staircase everyone used that didn't track the swipe card and user name.
 
All seems to
Be a dogs breakfast imo

numerous experts (??) can’t even agree on the issues

It will drag on for years and years
 
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