Mark Thatcher

[securespark]

That's right, folks, the only reason Thickie got his sirdom was that Daddy breathed his last....

What a w@nker....

He exploited his connections to get where he is, selling arms l,r & c. Now the excreta has hit the rotary ventilation device...

Funniest thing was sis Carol, "my only concern is my mother......." You can hear Mark, saying "Thanks, sis!"

And didn't she look like Jimmy Saville OBE? And what was with the body movements? She couldn't keep still on the shots I saw.

 

[frediaz]

frediaz, would you like to explain? What you write makes no sense, since (if I recall correctly) there is something to the effect "the sins of the fathers shall be visited upon the sons" it's already there, but so what? Except possibly a reminder to people not to get up to too many bad things if you have any concern for the well being of your children, 'cos they might cop it.

I am saying: if he received the privileges from his parents (like the title) he should also pay the bill that was left unpaid by his mother

 

[pipme]

Bet it all comes to naught ... the old funny handshakes will be in full pump mode ....

 

[kendor]

My original post refers to the honours system itself rather than anything Mark Thatcher may or may not be involved in.

You're right, if it does, why pick on one person instead of picking on the system?

I know this thread is old now but i've been away....
The reason people pick on individuals is that they are icons in society and we like to blame someone, it's the same with Tony Blair! why hold him responsible?

 

[david and julie]

All seems to have gone quiet now, probably been sorted with handshakes and brown envelopes. Another case of who you know or what?

 

[securespark]

Though the ex SAS geezer Simon Somebody has been dragged through the court and faces years in jail.......

 

[david and julie]

So we have an outcome at last.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/4169557.stm

Lucky man, according to the report he appears the only one to get off virtually scot free, given his wealth and obvious ability to pay up without problem.

He has now said he his going to join his family in the US, where you may ask? yep the US. Given America's current red alert on terrorism etc, would anyone care to lay any bets as to whether he will be turned away?

Who you know or what?

 

[pipme]

Ah, but he is married to a Yank .... Strange tho' allowing criminals into the country .... P'raps he does know someone (or three) !!
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[jasy]

My original post refers to the honours system itself rather than anything Mark Thatcher may or may not be involved in.

You're right, if it does, why pick on one person instead of picking on the system?

I know this thread is old now but i've been away....
The reason people pick on individuals is that they are icons in society and we like to blame someone, it's the same with Tony Blair! why hold him responsible?

Because i never voted him in, so i can.............but you don't vote do you Kendor??

 

[Scoby_Beasley]

Poor man goes to prison for 15 years
Rich man pays 265k fine
Don't forget, the law is not here to keep a civilised society, its to keep the upper class ****s in the honoured position they've inherited !!

 

[kendor]

My original post refers to the honours system itself rather than anything Mark Thatcher may or may not be involved in.

You're right, if it does, why pick on one person instead of picking on the system?

I know this thread is old now but i've been away....
The reason people pick on individuals is that they are icons in society and we like to blame someone, it's the same with Tony Blair! why hold him responsible?

Because i never voted him in, so i can.............but you don't vote do you Kendor??

Always voted jasy.
I suppose what i wrote may have been misconstrued, what i meant to say is don't blame Tony Blair, But as far as Thatcher is concerned the guilty so and so should be extradited to Equatorial new guneia to suffer the consequences, he tried to cash in by financing a killing and hoping to rip off the people of that country, if you finance a hitman over here you'd be banged up so what's the difference?

 

[pipme]

The difference is that the law has been satisfied -- insofar as the 'snouters' will all take their cut ---
An interesting thought, why is MT involved in such shenanegens ? If twas me it would put down to my upbringing --- I mean that is where we learn the basics --- So are we seing the world according to the Thatchers ? As if we did not know !!
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[AdamW]

I have only had the right of suffrage for 6 years (during which the winner has never been who I voted for!), so I am wondering if you could shed some light on something: do we always look back on previous PMs and think "What was the country thinking when they elected them?!". Only I still hear people slating Maggie, Harold Wilson etc.

I for one think Blair is a complete to**er who has used New Labour as a judas-goat for the middle classes, so of course I will look back and wonder what went wrong. But is there anyone here who reckons that in 20 years they will be saying "Bring back Blair, he had manky teeth but he knew how to run the country!"

Hell, bring back Old Labour, and restore balance to the Commons!

 

[IanDB]

You're probably too young to remember the bitter (and I mean bitter) confrontation between the miners and the government and not only that, there was the Murdoch dispute, some other dispute over a photographic plant. All this accompanied by violent scenes and division.

You can argue that the times we live in now are far better with lower unemployment and improved standards of living and that this has more bearing on why we do what we do rather than the government of the day and its leader.

Personally I don't subscribe to that. I never found M. Thatcher an inclusive leader or many of her entourage (Norman "on yer bike" Tebbit for one). Yes, she was a strong leader but at what cost.

Blair came in on a tidal wave of rejection of umpteen years of Conservative policy that had ended up with weak leadership and splits. If they hadn't had that they could still be in power.

Blair can appear humane and populist and still comes across like that but he will be judged when all is over against his background of spin and the "cronyism" with Alistair Campbell, Peter Mandelson and others. It will be interesting to see what happens in the next election. Can you honestly see the electorate going for Michael Howard? I think it will be a one horse race.

 

[AdamW]

Ah, but my question is, in 20 years will you look back and think "Blair, what a good leader he was", or will you think of him in the same vein that many people seem to think of most (if not all) former PMs, i.e. as a to**pot?