menvier TS690 Battery

[AssociatedAlarm]

like i say im going to charge £262+ parts to change a hard drive, and im going to charge £700 plus to build a pc, but i want to use your existing pc case, you will then also be charged the price of the conponents for the pc, and to top it all off im going to put 100% mark up on all the pc bits i buy, and of course you will also pay me the extra 100% mark up on that gear.

Cheap system then. Mine new project has 5 HD`s and 2 SSD. 2 graphics cards and more RAM than a farmers guild meeting. Liquid cooled. Boots in 3 seconds.

Your just trying to make an argument as per with ebay prices and DIY. Compared to pro companies.
You will always think your right, tell you what ring TYCO, the biggest in the world. They own ADT. See what they say.

 

[alumni]

tell you what ring TYCO, the biggest in the world. They own ADT.

Currently.

 

[lee2009]

op i wish you well, ive got my fingers crossed for you when you go for the diy battery swap, be sure not to recomend that company to anyone at £282 replacement battery costs.

and if you ever do wanna go for a new alarm system, some of the people on here will be only to happy to help you, i wish you well.

 

[Europlex]

Hello everyone

My alarm people are charging £282 to come out and replace the back up battery in my Ts690. I think this is excessive.

I decided to take the front panel off and silenced the alarm with my pass code. I located the battery and ordered one off the net for £24 delivered.

Now before I get too clever and disconnect the old one, is there anything I should know about?

Is it really as simple as reconnecting the fast on spade terminals and punching my code in to reset?

Can the battery only be changed with an engineers code?

What about if I bridge the old batterry with the new one using two bits or wire? Do you think the system will detect the increase in volts and lock me out?

Many thanks
Ron

Right, after 9 pages of diatribe, as it appears that you know how to open / close your panel with no problem (silences & then re-sets with your code) - If you are willing to take the risk >
TURN OFF THE MAINS SUPPLY, open panel, silence with code, remove battery, Outside sounder should start, replace battery, sounder will more than likely stop, close panel, enter your code, turn the mains back on.

Do this at your own risk.

 

[skyboy]

To the OP... AssociatedAlarms sorry Alarm is right get another quote .

You have had ADT around.

Make sure you ask them the following questions...

1. Is the outside siren a working siren?
2. Will the panel be linked to a premium rate number adding daily costs to my phone bill?


The reason I mention the above is because they usually fit a dummy box not a working siren,
The problem here is if your phone line fails the ARC will not be notified and since the outside box is only a dummy your home will then be burgled in blissful silence.

Don't fall for any argument that people ignore sirens anyway and that's why they don't fit them. The cynical reason they don't fit working sirens is because they then know that you will correctly deduce that you will have to keep paying the monitoring contract to have any hope of the alarm being useful at all.

Also beware you will need two keyholders if you go for the keyholder option instead of the urn and police response route.(you still need two keyholder for that anyway)

The problem here is even with the best will in the world who is to say your keyholders will even answer a call from your alarm at 3am much less get dressed and rush round to your home. More than likely if it goes to a mobile they will ignore the call knowing they can check missed calls in the morning. Which by then will be too late.

As for the premium rate number ADT have installed systems where the control panel sends status reports on a daily basis when you set and unset the alarm eyc and these calls were routed to a premium rate number meaning the monthly monitoring cost isn't all you pay.

I fit DIY alarms specifically Yale alarms that telephone the homeowner direct who can then phone a neighbour if not within reach of home yourself who can then check your home. This has no monitoring costs or on costs and the building of cooperative relationships with neighbours is the key to home security.
One of my alarms went off - Because of the audible siren the neighbour was alerted and saw two people in the back garden.. the Police were called and the suspects aprehended.

Don't let ADT tell you that sirens are ignored...

On the other point about getting your alarm monitored with a police 'response'

The police will not guarantee to arrive. It is illegal for an alarm company to suggest that the police WILL attend your alarm activation. It is illegal to guarantee a police response.
The Police do not know what they will be doing when your alarm activates they may even be tied up with other local issues hence they tell alarm companies NOT to guarantee any action on their behalf.

The other thing of course is most burglaries are done and dusted in around one and a half minutes... It is rare even if they respond for the Police to arrive on site while the burglars are still there. More of a chance if a siren activated and the police are called by witnesses who have looked and can still see people on site.
Better for other reasons too such as identifying a car they may be fleeing in (usually the owners these days as they break in for the car keys)

Try to get a quote from a local alarm company as associatedalarm keeps saying when you use a national company you are subsidising their head office staff the bosses bonuses , the van fleet , the overheads like the plush offices etc etc etc

 

[skyboy]

Hello everyone

My alarm people are charging £282 to come out and replace the back up battery in my Ts690. I think this is excessive.

I decided to take the front panel off and silenced the alarm with my pass code. I located the battery and ordered one off the net for £24 delivered.

Now before I get too clever and disconnect the old one, is there anything I should know about?

Is it really as simple as reconnecting the fast on spade terminals and punching my code in to reset?

Can the battery only be changed with an engineers code?

What about if I bridge the old batterry with the new one using two bits or wire? Do you think the system will detect the increase in volts and lock me out?

Many thanks
Ron

Right, as it appears that you know how to open / close your panel with no problem (silences & then re-sets with your code) - If you are willing to take the risk >
TURN OFF THE MAINS SUPPLY, open panel, silence with code, remove battery, Outside sounder should start, replace battery, sounder will more than likely stop, close panel, enter your code, turn the mains back on.

Do this at your own risk.

This is a fair comment from Europlex however it may lead to your panel being locked out and needing a remote reset or engineer reset that you will be unable to do (possibly) and may generate a £100 charge from a local company to come out and reset your panel..
I think Europlex is possibly hoping that this is the result you get so that when you add to the thread later with 'I swapped my battery but now I can't resest the system' they will all be able to say - you should have paid the £282 for the battery swap..

 

[Europlex]

I decided to take the front panel off and silenced the alarm with my pass code.

SlowAlarms, can't you read and comprehend?

Sorry, I forgot, you only sell an fit DiY kit.

 

[skyboy]

I decided to take the front panel off and silenced the alarm with my pass code.

SlowAlarms, can't you read and comprehend?

Sorry, I forgot, you only sell an fit DiY kit.

Sorry but was he using a master code to do that or an engineer code?
There is a difference between silencing an activated alarm and resetting one.

The normal user code will silence an alarm will it not but the system would/could still need a reset...he has already admitted not getting the engineer code when he cancelled the contract Europlank.

 

[Europlex]

I decided to take the front panel off and silenced the alarm with my pass code.

SlowAlarms, can't you read and comprehend?

Sorry, I forgot, you only sell an fit DiY kit.

Sorry but was he using a master code to do that or an engineer code?

As I have said / asked many times in the past, as above can't you read and comprehend?

 

[skyboy]

I decided to take the front panel off and silenced the alarm with my pass code.

SlowAlarms, can't you read and comprehend?

Sorry, I forgot, you only sell an fit DiY kit.

Sorry but was he using a master code to do that or an engineer code?

As I have said / asked many times in the past, as above can't you read and comprehend?

Er DUH.... which PASS code did he use to slience the alarm?
Would it not be the case that if a tamper situation arose (such as when opening the panel) a normal USER code would silence the alarm - however that code would NOT neccessarily be able to RESET the system....YOU should have read the whole of the thread where he explains that he DOES NOT posses the engineer code and reflects that he should have asked for it when he cancelled the contract - This post would not even be in existance if the OP already had all the codes would it?
You have simply answered the OPs first question as evidenced by your first appearance on the thread being a quote from the original question. You haven't bothered to wade through all the PRO generated crap so common on this forum. Maybe YOU should READ and COMPREHEND!

Or why didn't the op ask for the company to remove eng code when he cancelled the contract?

This is a good idea for the future.

I was not aware of engineer code at the time I cancelled

 

[alumni]

To the OP... AssociatedAlarms sorry Alarm is right get another quote .

You have had ADT around.

Make sure you ask them the following questions...

Yaleguy
It would have helped if you'd actually read what the OP said, instead of just shooting your mouth off on a subject you openly admit, you know little about.

 

[alumni]

This is a fair comment from Europlex however it may lead to your panel being locked out and needing a remote reset or engineer reset that you will be unable to do (possibly) and may generate a £100 charge from a local company to come out and reset your panel..
I think Europlex is possibly hoping that this is the result you get so that when you add to the thread later with 'I swapped my battery but now I can't resest the system' they will all be able to say - you should have paid the £282 for the battery swap..

Yaleguy,
You really are excelling yourself this morning.
You seem to have the same reading difficulties as your mate, the village idiot.

Stick to what you know, not spout nonsense and misinformation.

 

[skyboy]

To the OP... AssociatedAlarms sorry Alarm is right get another quote .

You have had ADT around.

Make sure you ask them the following questions...

Skyboy
It would have helped if you'd actually read what the OP said, instead of just shooting your mouth off on a subject you openly admit, you know little about.

Yes and he also said 'HOW MUCH WOULD AN ALARM COST' indicating he HAD NOT signed the contract and therefore is still at liberty to make sure he gets ALL the FACTS before he makes a decision.


He said 'Had ADT over for a chat. They want about £450 for an install and then £27 a month for 36 months monitoring it.

They said I would own the system and can have it linked to the police.

What is a top of the range alarm system these days? Any one know?'


In answer to the OP I can confirm that round my way they charge £2000 for a bells only wirefree system..

 

[alumni]

Yes and he also said 'HOW MUCH WOULD AN ALARM COST' indicating he HAD NOT signed the contract and therefore is still at liberty to make sure he gets ALL the FACTS before he makes a decision.

No contract to sign.

You're letting your pathalogical hatred of legitimate companies cloud your thinking.

 

[Europlex]

I decided to take the front panel off and silenced the alarm with my pass code.

Please, what is it about this statement from tryityourself that you don't understand?

If he was not able to do use his own code, be it User, Manager Code or what ever you want to call it, we would be here having a conversation about how to RESET his alarm, we're not, so he has.

There will be many, no thousands of alarms out there where resetting a tamper caused by opening the panel is possible with any form of user code.
his is obviously one of them.

Reset on tamper by an Engineer only code is a fairly new facility (requirement) that you seem to have latched onto as being 'the norm'. In the thousands of existing alarms, it is not.