Met Police Firearms Officers

[ellal]

So what would you do that would categorically prevent 'mistakes' from happening whist still protecting the firearms officers?

I feel a swerve coming on.....

Swerving is your department as you have ably demonstrated time and time again

You can't prevent 'mistakes' from happening, but you have to make sure that the justice system is robust enough to work out whether that 'mistake' was just that...

Or a case of bad practice and a 'gung ho' attitude...

Something you might be aware of

So I'll ask you the same question...

And if you lost a family member to a 'mistake', how would you feel if there wasn't a chance to get justice and find out what happened?

No swerving by you by saying it couldn't possibly happen to you or one of yours

 

[blup]

"They mustn't fear ending up in the dock for carrying out their duties"

Classic all things to all people quote, says it to appeal to those concerned but defensible when challenged.

Blup

 

[Mottie]

You can't prevent 'mistakes' from happening,

So you admit that you can't prevent mistakes from happening. Good, we're getting somewhere.

you have to make sure that the justice system is robust enough to work out whether that 'mistake' was just that...

Who says it isn't?

And if you lost a family member to a 'mistake', how would you feel if there wasn't a chance to get justice and find out what happened?

How do you think I'd feel you numpty but again, who says there isn't a chance to get justice and find out what happened?

Cruella is suggesting that the police shouldn't be in the dock at all regardless !

Where is she saying that? Stop making things up when you're losing an argument.

 

[ellal]

How do you think I'd feel you numpty

Good, we're getting somewhere...

Well thats only assuming you'd feel rather aggrieved as opposed to simply shrugging your shoulders and thinking, well at least 'the firearms officer is protected' that is

 

[ReganAndCarter]

Innocent of carrying a gun when he was killed? Yes, there is no argument about that.

What is the other crime you believe he was found guilty of, for which the legal punishment is summary execution?

Loitering with intent to use a pedestrian crossing.
Walking in a loud shirt in a built up area during the hours of darkness.
Coughing without due care and attention.
Walking on the cracks in the pavement.

Take your pick.

 

[Mottie]

Spitting on the pavement
Being a bird but dressing like a geezer
Being professionally offended about everything
Ending every bitchy post with a 'smiley', thinking that makes you look less of a **** than you actually are
Keep saying 'Linky Linky' in a high pitched voice like some sort of Queen

All valid reasons.

 

[Roy Bloom]

Was the table leg man black?

ReganandCarter decided he was a wrong 'un because he is black. It was a comment unconnected with a shooting.
He evidently assumes all black people are wrong 'uns.

Harry Stanley was Scottish, but he was reported to be Irish.
And no police were charged, tried nor convicited of unlawful killing. Thye didn't even suffer any disciplinary action.

The Crown Prosecution Service decided in October 2005 not to press charges, saying that they "concluded that the prosecution evidence is insufficient to rebut the officers' assertion that they were acting in self defence"
On 9 February 2006 the Independent Police Complaints Commission published their report into the incident, recommending that no further disciplinary action be taken against the officers.

Shooting of Harry Stanley - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Roy Bloom]

If I did I would tell you.

I think you're well confused securspark, JohnD's comment was aimed at a couple of trolls, not at you.

 

[Roy Bloom]

So what would you do that would categorically prevent 'mistakes' from happening whist still protecting the firearms officers?

I feel a swerve coming on.....

In cases of innocent people being vicitms of police mistakes there's already a clear restitution process.
It just needs to be fair and just, and timely.
And not covered up by lies, nor covered over because they're doing their job.

In other cases, e.g. doctors, the employer pays the restitution, not the doctor.

 

[Deleted member 294929]

ReganandCarter decided he was a wrong 'un because he is black. It was a comment unconnected with a shooting.
He evidently assumes all black people are wrong 'uns.

Harry Stanley was Scottish, but he was reported to be Irish.
And no police were charged, tried nor convicited of unlawful killing. Thye didn't even suffer any disciplinary action.

Shooting of Harry Stanley - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

But wasn't black was he. I know the pub. I was going out with a girl at the time down the Amhurst Road. I didn't carry a table leg but understand why some did.

 

[Roy Bloom]

Who says it isn't?

History proves it.

Shooting of Harry Stanley - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Roy Bloom]

But wasn't black was he. I know the pub. I was going out with a girl at the time down the Amhurst Road.

You're not reading what I wrote.
ReganandCarter decided he was a wrong 'un because he was black. It was not relevant to any killing. ReganandCarter decided he was a wrong 'un irrespective of what happend.
ReganandCrater thinks that all black people are wrong 'uns because they are black.

There's quite a few other innocent black people killed by police. There's also a quite a few innocent non-black people killed by police.
As far as I know, only two police have ever been convicted of murder. One of them quite recently.

I wasn't commenting on the people killed by police. I was commenting on ReganndCarter's usual bigotry. He can't help himself. He has to exploit the opportunity to display his bigotry. It's like a religion for him.

 

[securespark]

I think you're well confused securspark, JohnD's comment was aimed at a couple of trolls, not at you.

Sorry, it's my sense of humour. My answer was a line from ABC's "The Look Of Love".

 

[Roy Bloom]

Sorry, it's my sense of humour. My answer was a line from ABC's "The Look Of Love".

Sorry, well over my head.

 

[Munroast]

I wonder how concerned the 'powers-that-be' are, in that unless a guilty verdict is established and a very long sentence handed out, then we could face months of civil unrest and the rise of BLM.

No wonder the police are deeply concerned.