More4...When Britain went to war.

[raebhoop]

Been watching this...The miners strike.Violence on both sides,but boy did the cops go over the top,especially those from the Met.
I believe there's big trouble ahead in this country...and this time with the body armour and the side handled baton and tasers,they're gonna go completely over the top.With the blessing of our political masters.

 

[big-all]

Been watching this...The miners strike.Violence on both sides,but boy did the cops go over the top,especially those from the Met.
I believe there's big trouble ahead in this country...and this time with the body armour and the side handled baton and tasers,they're gonna go completely over the top.With the blessing of our political masters.

thatcher primed the police by giving them a good pay settlement in anticipation knowing she wanted to cripple the out off control unions
she didn't want to bring them under control to a reasonable level she wanted to bring them to there knees and rub there faces in the mud then sit on them
she simply wasn't interested in bringing them to heel then giving them an honorable way out when defeated

 

[Alarm]

I was contracting to the Ploice then. They loved the miners strikes.
A quote " Loved the fights, the overtime bought my house" . Your right though maggie primed them.

 

[big-all]

i was a train driver at the time i wasn't militant but was frustrated at the way management disrespected the proffesionalism and dedication off a train driver
our hourly rate then was around £5 an hour or possibly slightly less we had achieveda 39 hour week by then i think
any productivity was shared with the board getting 60 to 80% off the value without any new machinery allowing better productivity

yes i agree that scargills "demand" for no pit closures was unreasonable and indeed as nutty as thatcher demonic unhealthy indeed evil intent in breaking the unions rather than getting a fair balance for every one

 

[Mickymoody]

The workers lost that battle, now the public sector are on the line....it's a battle, not a war...student protests...riots...public servants, no riots, but disarray...where next? Nobody voted this Government in, and everyone wants it out, but no alternative. Choice? Rioting. Civil War.

 

[Nige F]

I was contracting to the Ploice then. They loved the miners strikes.
A quote " Loved the fights, the overtime bought my house" . Your right though maggie primed them.

It bought their house because it was a tied police house that Thatcher gave away like the council houses - Was she so clever a politician - or are we a nation of knobs , taken in by her monetarism Oh no, sorry I forgot - it`s the fault of all the politicians after her .

 

[joinerjohn]

A few things that get me about the unions. The union leaders ballot the members for strikes etc, then when they go on strike the members are the ones losing pay, yet the leaders still get paid. An example,,, Bob Crow , leader of the RMT, is paid a basic salary of over £90,000 a year, and with expenses claims etc takes this to well over £100,000.
This is a level of income the RMT membership can only ever hope to aspire to. Recently he attended a luncheon at a top London restaurant, with his cronies to discuss the latest strike action, designed to disrupt travel for thousands of workers (whilst quaffing champagne at £40+ a bottle)
Yet he claims to represent a workforce who are on the breadline.
I think unions themselves should change the rules. When they are asked to strike, by their leaders, the leader should also have his salary suspended for the duration of the strike.
Strikes such as the ones coming up by the Public Service unions, are purely being held for political purposes, nothing more. They claim it's all to do with pension rights, but in reality, is designed to try and bring the government down.

 

[raebhoop]

Thatchers' lot transferred the country's wealth and future from the manufacturing industries to the service industries...The City and the banks...good move there Maggie...

Bruce Reynolds, the gang leader of The Great Train Robbers in an interview, was asked if the Mafia were involved...He pointed out of his window in the direction of The City and said..."There's the Mafia in this country, we're just a bunch of amateurs compared to them"

How right he was...

 

[Space cat]

Was she so clever a politician - or are we a nation of knobs

Our other half reckons that women voted for her because they thought she would bring down the price of groceries.

But there's many a true word spoken in jest and I have a horrible feeling that she's right.

 

[Norcon]

It was Baroness Thatcher's policies that created the wealth, that Brown flushed down the toilet by his profligate incompetence. To be hated by the left is the greatest achievment that a politician can hope for, as it is positive confirmation that they got it right.

In the seventies industry had to be bailed out by the government in subsidies thanks to labour policy, now thanks again to labour policy the banks have to be bailed out and the country is broke once again.

 

[joinerjohn]

Even the Labour opposition are distancing themselves from the planned strikes. They reckon any strike will give the public the excuse to blame unions on a worse economy, services etc.

 

[sooey]

In the seventies industry had to be bailed out by the government in subsidies thanks to labour policy

Maggie sorted that one out....now we ain't got no industry.

 

[Norcon]

In the seventies industry had to be bailed out by the government in subsidies thanks to labour policy

Maggie sorted that one out....now we ain't got no industry.

Sick man of europe -> world powerhouse.

Thanks to Thatcher
Any industry that failed was on its way out long before Maggie came to power.
She just instigated the final shove.

 

[corgiman]

In the seventies industry had to be bailed out by the government in subsidies thanks to labour policy

Maggie sorted that one out....now we ain't got no industry.

wedidnt have any more money to subsidize industry anymore mate, unions demanding higher and higher wages as india, china etc were providing the same quality stuff fr a faction of the price.

if we hadn't became a service economy then we would have been bankrupt and there would have been no future at all.

once the uk ran out of money who was going to subsidize the "workers" then??

 

[sooey]

Yes corgi in a nutshell, you've just summed up the free market economy and globalisation. Once the rich realised it was more profitable to relocate to the other side of the world because the natives over there could be exploited at a much lower cost than us, we were fckd.
Now they've taken it to the next level... bring the cheap labour here.
Which has the added benefit of driving down the local labour charges...so we're even more fckd.