Can`t disagree with you there - the fat cats are in the Unions too
More4...When Britain went to war.
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If creating wealth involves selling off state owned assets - then let`s lobby for the whole UK to be put on eBay
PS can I have a Mr. Red avatar to use instead of Mr. Green - one combining the hammer+ sickle The concept of f`ked relating to a country can only be finite . Whereas one can be f`ked more than once ,and indeed by more than one other at one time ; a country cannot be more f`ked . FFS we are a country awaiting the drone of Enola Gay carrying the Big Boy of F`kedness - metaphorically speakingYes corgi in a nutshell, you've just summed up the free market economy and globalisation. Once the rich realised it was more profitable to relocate to the other side of the world because the natives over there could be exploited at a much lower cost than us, we were fckd.
Now they've taken it to the next level... bring the cheap labour here.
Which has the added benefit of driving down the local labour charges...so we're even more fckd.
I'd have thought if he earns that much per year he could afford a cheap suit.
Every time I see him on TV giving an interview he's loafing around in jeans, trainers and an open necked shirt looking like Onslow from Keeping Up Appearances.
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Well he does live in a council house...Apparently. OOps! He is taking from the tax payer? OH NO! Not another person in power stealing from the tax payer? Where will this end?
I'm constantly astonished at the attitude of the British workers to their own class. If Bob Crow earns 90k, good luck to him. I know plumbers who earn more & have nothing like pressure that Crow does.
I also find it incredible that anyone actually believes that Thatch did any good to this country. Go to any pit village Norcom & witness the devastation wrought by her policies, look where you now have to buy your water, steel, oil, cars, televisions and most other goods from.
Surely it's a better thing to subsidise someone to dig coal than sit on his arse all day watching Jeremy Kyle.
I also find it incredible that anyone actually believes that Thatch did any good to this country. Go to any pit village Norcom & witness the devastation wrought by her policies, look where you now have to buy your water, steel, oil, cars, televisions and most other goods from.
Surely it's a better thing to subsidise someone to dig coal than sit on his arse all day watching Jeremy Kyle.
Bob Crow is not my class - I give a toss about my companies' customers.
The Unions don't run the state/country - as much as they think they do.
Whilst the moderate ones can, and do, well for both worker and company, the extremist end of them do nobody any favours. What cannot be allowed is them dictating what happens to the country.
There is only ever going to be one winner when they confront a resolute Government. And rightly so.
The sad part is all the innocent people caught up in the posturing.
Whilst the moderate ones can, and do, well for both worker and company, the extremist end of them do nobody any favours. What cannot be allowed is them dictating what happens to the country.
There is only ever going to be one winner when they confront a resolute Government. And rightly so.
The sad part is all the innocent people caught up in the posturing.
I still cannot understand where all these "extremists" are! Unions have no power, except of course the NFU who can close our roads with the police's blessing. I personally know noone who is was or will be on strike nor have I ever. I didn't live in a cave in the 70s, yet we were supposed to be in a state of constant militancy.
And Ricardus- Bob Crow gives a damn about his members, that's his job & what on earth has his dress sense got to do with anything?
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But despite that salary, despite the pressure he may be under, he still lives in a council house, that gets heavily subsidised. By the tax payer.
Lostinfens, if you know plumbers that get equal or more wage, and have a council house, don't you think they have more than enough income to actually purchase their own house, like the rest of the population have to do? Rather than sponging off the state, for a free benefit? To me - These people are the dole scroungers, where they take benefits from the dole system, and abuse them for their own benefits.
What has Bob Crow actually done to help his workers, that are under him, go on strike, and achieve nothing, while he is lapping it up in council provided property? While his workers are on the front line, losing wages, and jobs? A few back handers in there perchance? If you are earning that type of money, then get your own place, and make space for someone that needs it, that is on their arse and on the street.
And before you say it, I don't live in a council house, or rented, my house is mortgaged.
Yeah, but you don't work, so you ain't paying the mortgage.
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Mickymoody
Yeah, but you don't work, so you ain't paying the mortgage.
Yeah but I pay the equity, so yeah, the dole pays the interest on that...about £30 quid a week. Yeah? I still pay the lump sum off. Thats £200 a month maybe? Learn and grow up. Maybe?
I feel that the needs of the general community, have no idea what is going on around them? People seem to be oblivious to society.
Are there options for normally normally people that do not know how society exists, in real terms?
Inner London Authorities are offering people a £50,000, DEPOSIT...for people to find homes...
I worked my ass off for an endownment mortgage, the dole pays off the interest only. And as it is less than 30k, it's £30 a week, far less than they pay for people in council housing.
So before you know you know WTF you are talking about, research it a bit. I think you will find that people like Bob Crow, that can afford to buy a house, refuses to, so that is a slap in the face for his members.
What's a slap in the face is scroungers like you, whinging because you don't think working people are paying enough to keep you sitting on your arze. Why should anyone have to pay taxes to feed you and your dependents, and put a roof over your heads. Get a job you lazy, prideless bstrd.
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Mickymoody
Firstly, the lack of spelling stands out, secondly, that you freely will allow a person in public office, to steal tax from you, but you verbally assault me, for pointing it out. I really think that people employed, that digress that people in power are not taking the miss. When people on the dole, are doing their best. You really. DO NOT HAVE A CLUE ABOUT THE COUNTRY, OR HOW IT WORKS, YOU REALLY NEED TO BE IN A HOSPITAL. SEEKING MEDICAL CARE.
Those that don't know how to spell 'arze', 'pridless', or 'bstrd', because obviously, you are not in work, or shouldn't be, as you are unable to complete a sentence.
So look unto yourself, before me. Can you express yourself fully? And in the correct way? No.
Will you two stop all this foreplay & get a room
Mick some of what you say, I agree with. I think that council houses are for those who need them first, but where is it enshrined in our laws that wealthier people cannot be council tenants?
I have to question your assertion that council tenants are scroungers or that they are heavily subsidised.
As for our Bob, I don't know him personally, but I'm certainly not going to pay any attention to the ravings of the Daily Mail or its ilk. These bastions of reactionary thought would've had an unwaged person like yourself out on the streets in a shot. It's people like Bob Crow that stop their total control of a country which for centuries regarded workers as expendable until the rise of the labour movement.
Remember, we have only had a welfare state within living memory and it took a world war to get that and the right wing press foamed at its birth and the presumption of a social class that they had the right to the same.
I don't know if Bob Crow is a good or a bad man, but I do know that I'm working class and my enemys enemy is my friend, and if I had to choose between Crow and Murdoch, well work it out -.
Mick some of what you say, I agree with. I think that council houses are for those who need them first, but where is it enshrined in our laws that wealthier people cannot be council tenants?
I have to question your assertion that council tenants are scroungers or that they are heavily subsidised.
As for our Bob, I don't know him personally, but I'm certainly not going to pay any attention to the ravings of the Daily Mail or its ilk. These bastions of reactionary thought would've had an unwaged person like yourself out on the streets in a shot. It's people like Bob Crow that stop their total control of a country which for centuries regarded workers as expendable until the rise of the labour movement.
Remember, we have only had a welfare state within living memory and it took a world war to get that and the right wing press foamed at its birth and the presumption of a social class that they had the right to the same.
I don't know if Bob Crow is a good or a bad man, but I do know that I'm working class and my enemys enemy is my friend, and if I had to choose between Crow and Murdoch, well work it out -.
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