MP tells truth in Parliament, gets suspended for a day.

[JohnD]

GRAMMATICAL

Your grammar is so bad you repeated your false allegation 23 times.

That's really bad grammar you have.

You should see someone about it.

 

[Mottie]

You should see someone about it.

You should see someone about your swerving problem. You really have embarrassed yourself more than usual this time.

 

[JohnD]

poor mottie with his made-up allegation.

he can't bear to leave it alone.

he's compelled to keep stalking.

 

[Mottie]

Goodnight. Sleep tight. Don’t let the swerve bugs bite.

 

[Captain Nemesis]

poor mottie with his made-up allegation.

he can't bear to leave it alone.

he's compelled to keep stalking.

I have friends and family in East London. I drive a nice car. It is registered outside the area. I am white. Per hundred trips (about a year's worth), guess how many times I have been stopped by police?

Given the context of that thread, you were trying to make the point that you, a white man, had never, or very rarely, been stopped by the police in any of your about a hundred trips a year to visit friends and family in East London.

Its hard to imagine where you would be travelling from if not where you live.

Its even harder to imagine what you hope to gain by repeatedly denying that you said you made about a hundred trips a year to East London in your car.

 

[JohnD]

I have not denied that in the past, I drove through parts of East London about twice a week on average, and formerly spent most weekends there for several years.

Because I did.

Mottie has invented the false allegation that every one of these journeys began and ended in Greenock.

A claim I have never made.

You may be unaware that, prior to the pandemic, I lived in, worked in, and visited, numerous places.

Mottie could not bear to hear that I have experience of driving in London, but not of being stopped by the police.

Because he wants to deny that the racist Met habitually stops black people far more often than white ones.

Thus he invented his foolish fantasy, and even falsely claims that it is something I have said.

You need to work on your defective imagination.

 

[Captain Nemesis]

Mottie has invented the false allegation that every one of these journeys began and ended in Greenock.

A claim I have never made.

You may be unaware that, prior to the pandemic, I lived in, worked in, and visited, numerous places.

And where have you given this explanation to Mottie, and where has he refused to acept it?

 

[JohnD]

When mottie invents and repeats false allegations about people, none of them is obliged to enter into discussions with him.

I am not obliged to submit to his interrogation.

I am entitled to point out that he has invented a false story, and has made untrue claims.

Which he has.

I have never claimed that all my journeys began and ended in Greenock. But mottie has.

Indeed, when travelling between Scotland and Southern England, generally I travel by train, or fly.

I have never claimed to live for a whole year in Greenock.

I have often indicated the various places I have travelled to in my "location"

I did however state that I drove through East London reasonably often. Which is true. Mottie seeks to deny that truth, in order to try and deny the facts about the Metropolitan Police.

 

[Captain Nemesis]

Mottie has invented the false allegation that every one of these journeys began and ended in Greenock.

A claim I have never made.

But not a totally unreasonable inference to draw.

You may be unaware that, prior to the pandemic, I lived in, worked in, and visited, numerous places.

Completely unaware.

Mottie could not bear to hear that I have experience of driving in London, but not of being stopped by the police.

Because he wants to deny that the racist Met habitually stops black people far more often than white ones.

I guess it depends on whether you thought it was more important to describe a credible experience which would have strengthened your claims about institutional racism in the Met or more important to confect a row with Mottie by not issuing a simple clarification which would have debunked his claim that you were making a hundred trips a year from Greenock to East London, a claim he was clearly making to question the credibility of your evidence.

You need to work on your defective imagination.

You mean its not the case that what was really going on was that halfway down the M6 you used to pop into a disabed toilet and come out 10 minutes later wearing a frock?

 

[securespark]

poor mottie with his made-up allegation.

he can't bear to leave it alone.

he's compelled to keep stalking.

Goodnight. Sleep tight. Don’t let the swerve bugs bite.

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Have I been transported back in time to my primary playground in Golders Green, 1971?

 

[SirGalahad]

Punishment for what? It was general, lazy accusations of the PM being a liar made for publicity reasons only. Lazy because she just made accusations on each point with no facts to demonstrate he was wrong or lying.

If she wanted to prove he'd lied and presented the facts demonstrating he'd been untruthful, that was her opportunity to do it in parliament in a democratic manner.

You again fail to address why he hasn't corrected the record for his lies - I have mentioned it more than once. If anyone is being lazy it's Bojo.

Here are some facts to chew on.

But the hypocrisy now you ask for specifics yet where were these same questions of the Brexit deal which he now wants to renegotiate?

 

[SirGalahad]

Dawn Butler accuses someone of corruption and lying? What, THIS Dawn Butler or is there another one?

They’ve all got their fecking snouts in the trough and those that ain’t that good at it are the first to squeal about those that they think are better than them at it! Tis just jealousy.

Get rid of both - Bojo and Dawn. You agree?

Zero Tolerance.

 

[SirGalahad]

1984 was the Tory Instruction manual.

 

[Mottie]

Get rid of both - Bojo and Dawn. You agree?

Zero Tolerance.

I've said it before, Boris has done the job I voted him in to do and if there was anyone that could do better with regards to EU negotiations or vaccinations, I’d consider voting for them if given the choice. Who do you think could do better at the moment - dithering Starmer? I don’t even know the names of any other party leaders, they seem to change so often.

 

[Mottie]

But not a totally unreasonable inference to draw.



Completely unaware.


I guess it depends on whether you thought it was more important to describe a credible experience which would have strengthened your claims about institutional racism in the Met or more important to confect a row with Mottie by not issuing a simple clarification which would have debunked his claim that you were making a hundred trips a year from Greenock to East London, a claim he was clearly making to question the credibility of your evidence.



You mean its not the case that what was really going on was that halfway down the M6 you used to pop into a disabed toilet and come out 10 minutes later wearing a frock?

Very well put but why would JohnD chose between a simple yes or no answer to clear things up when a couple of hundred words over dozens of posts and numerous examples of swerving, avoiding and obfuscation will do to avoid it? And he thinks Boris a slippery barsteward!