naseem in jail was it the correct verdict

[Richardp]

well I happen to agree that the guy is just taking up space and costing us money in prison, hit him were in hurts in his bank account but the thing that gets me is the double standards I mean If he wasn't a sporting hero a couple of you would be calling him a fugee and sending him back to the country of his family origin and bringing back the death penalty and the birch etc

 

[masona]

well I happen to agree that the guy is just taking up space and costing us money in prison, hit him were in hurts in his bank account

Good point and a community service as well.

And maybe re-sit the driving test again

 

[paulbrown]

well I happen to agree that the guy is just taking up space and costing us money in prison, hit him were in hurts in his bank account but the thing that gets me is the double standards I mean If he wasn't a sporting hero a couple of you would be calling him a fugee and sending him back to the country of his family origin and bringing back the death penalty and the birch etc

I'm not sure what your aims are with antagonistic posts like this Richard. If you want to start some s***stirring you could just say so.

There was no double standards, nobody mentioned his ethnicity or capital/corporal punishment and he was born in Sheffield.

 

[plastered]

think the emphasis was on the "sporting hero" part.
(I shall now quietly wriggle back to my corner)

 

[ellal]

Whats this for ellal? does the use of that offensive icon better your post in any way?

Not that it's offensive - just a 'comment' on your post..!

Perhaps you could explain what good would come out of this sentence? Do you not think the victim would prefer money?

So, do you suggest that we go for a justice system which seems to be in place in many 3rd world countries?.. i.e. what supposedly is a system of compensation is in actual fact a way of letting the rich off lightly. Because regardless of what they say in the tabloids, prison isn't particularly nice because you have lost your freedom - much worse than writing a cheque and reducing your bank balance a bit! The sentence is there to show societies opinion of bad behaviour - civil courts are there to claim compensation...And they should remain seperate so that justice is done in most cases!

So, a guy with no money goes to jail, whilst one with a large amount (however come by) gets out of an appropriate sentence?..In theory, we have the system we do (with all it's nuances) because everyone is supposed to be treated equally in the eyes of the law, irrespective of status or wealth. Despite the fact that it's not perfect, it's probably one of the best around because of this 'principle'..

Naseem was a complete pr*ck in this instance, and as a DIRECT result of his actions, someone almost died - he needs a sentence that will show him that, and IMO a jail term is appropriate!

Personally I would prefer to see voilent people behind bars.

Quite agree..however, whether someone hits another person with their fist or a car, violence has occurred. What is a factor is intent. If someone hurts another in a drunken brawl, then quite often there is not an intent to cause major injury, and is thus treated different than say a random attack, but there is still a penalty because of that violence.

Naseem didn't mean to cause violence, but due to his actions he did, and therefore needs appropriate punishment!

 

[Slogger]

i am sure he didnt mean for the rich to not be jailed for stupidity


stupidity goes across the board it is one thing that makes us human


there are better ways to punish people than taking there libertys


ie a charv on a sink hole housing estate would rather do jail than community service

whereas the opposite would be true for a none charv ( )


so what to do hmmm who knows but jail isnt the answer


ps he isnt my hero i dont even like nasseem for his religious views but he made a stupid mistake not a jailing offence

DONT STOP KEEEP GOING OR ITS BIRD FOR U MY LAD / LASS

 

[ellal]

i am sure he didnt mean for the rich to not be jailed for stupidity

seems clear to me..the quote was - 'I also don't see the point in jailing very wealthy people for what is essentially stupidity'

ps he isnt my hero i dont even like nasseem for his religious views but he made a stupid mistake not a jailing offence

I don't get why people make allowances for an offence when it involves driving and cars..He may have been acting stupidly, but there was also intent - unless he really didn't know that what he was doing was completely illegal and highly dangerous. In which case he shouldn't be driving anyway.

Not too many years ago Drink Driving was viewed the same way - a bit stupid, but you're unlucky if you got caught. Thankfully the majority of people don't think this way anymore because it kills. The same must be said about this type of incident

Anyway, at least a prison sentence will give him time to think about his stupidity - any other sentence would have allowed him to 'impress' others on his ability to escape justice!

I think this sums up his attitude:

Hamed’s solicitor Steve Smith said later: “One of his disappointments probably is that his celebrity status has not been of assistance.

ps. how long do you reckon it'll be before one of the 'comics' runs a headline such as 'hero Nas helps rehabilitate cons through boxing lessons'..?

 

[paulbrown]

ellal,

You have issues which are more to do with wealth than anything else. In a word you are jealous.

They showed a police re-enactment of this accident last night on TV. There was no queueing traffic, as you said and the surroundings were fields full of sheep . The other car could not be seen because it was in a blindspot caused by a dip in the road. Yes he overtook on an unbroken line, yes he was speeding and yes he was stupid. But I still don't think he should have gone down for it, taking money from people is still a punishment, they are usually called fines. Putting money in public coffers is preferrable to wasting it on prison sentences that do no good.

 

[splinter]

ellal,

You have issues which are more to do with wealth than anything else. In a word you are jealous.

They showed a police re-enactment of this accident last night on TV. There was no queueing traffic, as you said and the surroundings were fields full of sheep . The other car could not be seen because it was in a blindspot caused by a dip in the road. Yes he overtook on an unbroken line, yes he was speeding and yes he was stupid. But I still don't think he should have gone down for it, taking money from people is still a punishment, they are usually called fines. Putting money in public coffers is preferrable to wasting it on prison sentences that do no good.

Would you like to see this as a non-jailable offence then ,no matter what you're back ground or financial circumstances

 

[johnny_t]

If you are committing an offence when you write off your £320k car, does the insurance still pay out ?

 

[Brightness]

Personally I think the judge made the right decision. He should also be banned from driving for the rest of his life.

I take it that no one who thinks he shouldn't have gone down have ever had to suffer the consequences of anothers stupid driving errors?

Thing is, this wasn't his first driving offence and he wasn't going maybe 10mph over the top was he? He could have killed that other poor guy - wonder if he's shown any remorse yet?

 

[Brightness]

If you are committing an offence when you write off your £320k car, does the insurance still pay out ?

I would hope it would pay out to the victim but not to him or whoever else might be thinking of doing the same thing.

 

[Steve]

If you are committing an offence when you write off your £320k car, does the insurance still pay out ?

I SINCERELY HOPE NOT

Lets turn this round. Lets imagine this from the "other driver's" point of view. Nas crashed his expensive car into your car, doing one and a half times the speed limit and a combined speed of probably 140mph. He was commiting an offence by doing the manoeuvre that caused the crash. You end up in agony and spend a couple of months in hospital. Nas walks away from the accident back to his luxury home. YES you can sue and regain loss of earnings, you will be financially re-imbursed, HOWEVER, Nas will be free and a small dent made in his bank account whilst being cheuffeured about for a couple of years - OH, and free to drive illegally (against his ban) and probably get away with it too.

The fact is, he thought he could escape a jail sentence because of his celebrity status. He thought he was above the law. He thought he was invincible when he took on the dangerous manoeuvre.

How would YOU feel, as the driver of the other car, if his celebrity status HAD let him escape a jail sentence that any other ordinary person would have got?

I think on this occasion, the courts decided to make an example of him, and to show that celebrity drivers who speed are not above the law. I'm sick of hearing about all these celebrities who hire the top lawyers to get them off speeding charges on technicalities etc. About time SOMEONE stood up to this pretending they are above the law.

 

[ellal]

ellal,

You have issues which are more to do with wealth than anything else. In a word you are jealous.

So tell me, how did you come to that pathetic conclusion?..You really shouldn't be reading the 'ladybird book of amateur psychology' anymore..!

I'll put it really simple for you..He broke the law, nearly killed someone, and wealth or a lack of it should not affect the sentence..

If I was to make an idiotic conclusion like you have, then could I assume that you think wealth should carry priviliges? (because after all, it was you that posted..I also don't see the point in jailing very wealthy people for what is essentially stupidity)..Maybe you only want 'poor people' to be jailed for stupidity?

But, I won't jump to those conclusions - I'll let your posts speak for themselves!!

 

[Brightness]

crafty, from my own experience of a no fault accident that has left me disabled, the injured party never gets anywhere near what they would have earned had they been able.

If I was still able to do the job that I am qualified for (or indeed any full time job at all!!!!) I would sincerely hope to have earned well in excess of my 'payout'. Instead, as well as a major lifestyle change we've also had a major change in income & as my hubby has said time and time again to me - no amount of money that they could have given me would ever give me back my life that I had before the 'accident'.

That's the difference as well - how can Naseem's accident be classed as an accident? Surely an accident is when something happens that is outside of anyones control? When you consider the factors here - him driving on wrong side of road and also at a ridiculous speed it can hardly be construed as an 'accident' can it? Just my take on it!