Naughty, tut tut.

[Odds]

You mean European countries should have coughed up more too support NATO in the good times or go it alone and fund an EU army navy and air force?

Aye, that's them.
They're beginning to realise they're gonna need it. Germany isn't keen, though. But further unification is one of the reasons why the UK should've left the EU. As a geopolitical organisation it makes sense for Europe; not for us. We've already answered the call from Uncle Sam.

 

[Brigadier]

Your mistake is thinking it's a zero-sum game, and a closed loop.
It isn't.

Someone’s had a word salad for lunch. Say that again in English.

UK is stronger on the world stage in Europe, than out.

Europe is stronger on the world stage with UK, then without.

Geddit?

 

[fillyboy]

Countries in Eastern Europe are worried the conflict could spread to their borders...but not half as fearful if they weren't protected by NATO and members of the European Union.

The bulk of weapons/financial support is coming from countries outside of the EU.

 

[fillyboy]

UK is stronger on the world stage in Europe, than out.

Europe is stronger on the world stage with UK, then without.

Geddit?

On the global 'soft power index' UK has climbed to number two spot since brexit, USA being number 1.
But you're right in saying Europe is stronger on the world stage with the UK as opposed to without.

 

[gant]

That overtime would change as Britain became more consumed into a social/communist construct where every country is 'equal' Not far off that now given we've flogged off everything to the highest bidder by way of eu law enabling that to be the case.

 

[Brigadier]

On the global 'soft power index' UK has climbed to number two spot since brexit, USA being number 1.
But you're right in saying Europe is stronger on the world stage with the UK as opposed to without.

Unfortunately, "soft power" ain't paying my mortgage

 

[fillyboy]

Unfortunately, "soft power" ain't paying my mortgage

Why on earth would you expect the UK's global standing and influence to pay your mortgage for you?
Do you think if we remained in the EU your mortgage would be paid for you?

**** me.

 

[Brigadier]

Why on earth would you expect the UK's global standing and influence to pay your mortgage for you?
Do you think if we remained in the EU your mortgage would be paid for you?

**** me.

My money would be worth more.

**** you.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Why on earth would you expect the UK's global standing and influence to pay your mortgage for you?
Do you think if we remained in the EU your mortgage would be paid for you?

**** me.

So what does soft power do for any of us

 

[fillyboy]

So what does soft power do for any of us

What does global influence or being stronger on the world stage do for any of us? I didn't bring it up, some nutjob suggested our global standing has gone down since leaving the EU, in fact the reverse is true, I provided a reference to the assertion. What have you and the nutjob provided to prove otherwise?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

So no benefit then. Didn't think so, well brought up

I'd prefer being in a stronger trading group for more overall power

 

[fillyboy]

So no benefit then. Didn't think so, well brought up

I'd prefer being in a stronger trading group for more overall power

No disadvantage either, other than the corporal not having his mortage paid for him by some mysterious benefactor.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

But a definite disadvantage of being weaker on the world stage, as was his point.

That you tried to deflect from with the pointless soft power

 

[fillyboy]

But a definite disadvantage of being weaker on the world stage, as was his point.

That you tried to deflect from with the pointless soft power

We're not weaker on the world stage, in terms of global influence (soft power) we've swapped places with Germany for the number 2 position, Germany are currently number 3.
We surpassed the EU on the race for covid vaccination and only America are providing more arms to Ukraine than us.

You and your ilk really don't like it, and won't accept it, but the UK is still a world leader.

 

[fillyboy]

But a definite disadvantage of being weaker on the world srafe, as was hus point.

I thought his point was he's having difficulty paying his mortage?