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(and I need the answer for each of the 1700+ deaths and 1,000,000+ non-fatal reactions)
It's pretty simple really and there is one very large hole in our argument. Deaths.

Reactions include just about everything. For instance many people get a sore arm or even bruising after any injection. The normal reaction to any vaccination is that the immune system gets to be active - that in itself causes reactions but is completely normal and expected. Some of the reactions mentioned in the final phase testing are extremely rare and all recovered. Age very probably figures in the immune response and lots and lots of older people have been vaccinated. We start deteriorating in some respects in our 30's.

Deaths are tricky. People are dying all of the time. Take an enormous number of people and some will die daily so it's a case of trying to relate normality against vaccinated to see if there is any difference. They can do this via looking at excess deaths with age. That is pretty broad way of looking at things. Take specific vaccine related issues. They can compare instances against what they usually get. The AZ vaccine and younger people for instance and certain types of blood clots. A Scandinavian country looked at that and concluded that there seemed to be an increase. Then comes people who have certain long term problems after vaccination. They are things that happen anyway exactly the same as a number of mentioned side effects. That can be down to the immune system and inflammation, a standard response. What do you think would happen to these people if they caught covid? Or a number of other things really.

End effect of vaccinating lots of people are shown extremely clearly in the stats. Deaths still start in the 20 odd year olds and increase with age as they always have. Go to the average life span age group and there are many more. Some would have lived considerably longer.

The stats are published weekly. The most recent one
https://assets.publishing.service.g...037940/Weekly_Flu_and_COVID-19_report_w48.pdf
 
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Stupid statement from Pfizer saying 3 doses neutralizes the virus? That means zero...
 
No, I'm talking about the simple logic of your statement "association is not causation". This will be true in some cases but not in all, and so the full truth is:

association is not always causation
but
association is not always *not* causation.

the yellow card reporting scheme shows association…. Some will be causation, some wont.

There are scientists constantly monitoring the data, they are looking for any patterns.

If you look at the list the vast majority are a whole range of different symptoms.

some like clots, there are enough to note a possible link and they are investigated further.
 
the yellow card reporting scheme shows association…. Some will be causation, some wont.

Thank you for that little bit of sense, I knew you had it in you. Flatly denying that the vaccines have any bad effects at all makes you all look rather silly.
 
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Flatly denying that the vaccines have any bad effects at all makes you all look rather silly.

And flatly claiming all deaths reported on the yellow card scheme are due to the vaccine is equally as silly.
 
Flatly denying that vaccines have saved huge numbers of lives would be ludicrous.
 
Thank you for that little bit of sense, I knew you had it in you. Flatly denying that the vaccines have any bad effects at all makes you all look rather silly.
Nobody has ever said flatly denied vaccines have bad effects, they most certainly do.



All medicines have rare dangerous side effects - even antibiotics can kill a person.

It is all about balance of risk.
 
Flatly denying that vaccines have saved huge numbers of lives would be ludicrous.
Denying that vaccines have saved huge numbers is something routinely trotted out by the anti vaxxers on here.

Ellal, gas12, goduselessplasterer etc refuse to accept that all the evidence points to vaccines saving many lives.
 
Denying that vaccines have saved huge numbers is something routinely trotted out by the anti vaxxers on here.

Ellal, gas12, goduselessplasterer etc refuse to accept that all the evidence points to vaccines saving many lives.

Anticipated UK deaths, were originally calculated be greater than 500K if it was left to natural immunity, plus the numbers needing to be rushed into ICU. That's why there was a panic to develop vaccines and massive increase of temporary ICU beds around the UK.
 
Anticipated UK deaths, were originally calculated be greater than 500K if it was left to natural immunity, plus the numbers needing to be rushed into ICU. That's why there was a panic to develop vaccines and massive increase of temporary ICU beds around the UK.

Here is the story of Adam Bounds, another of those "rare" cases of death caused by the vaccine:

Healthy father of one, 41, died from a severe brain-bleed 11 days after receiving the vaccine | Daily Mail Online

He died from vaccine-induced thrombotic thrombocytopenia. He was aged 41 and healthy, and therefore not at risk from covid.

I posted a few days ago of a young lady who had been killed by the vaccine. She was young, healthy and beautiful and similarly at low risk from covid.

These people did not need to be vaccinated Harry as they were at low risk from covid Harry. These are the cases that make it wrong to force, or propagandise, anybody into accepting the vaccine Harry. You are a nice man Harry but get a grip of yourself - where is your humanity? Do you simply accept these deaths as collateral damage Harry? How do you sleep at night Harry?

The madness of crowds Harry. The madness of crowds.



 
Here is the story of Adam Bounds, another of those "rare" cases of death caused by the vaccine:

Healthy father of one, 41, died from a severe brain-bleed 11 days after receiving the vaccine | Daily Mail Online

He died from vaccine-induced thrombotic thrombocytopenia. He was aged 41 and healthy, and therefore not at risk from covid.

I posted a few days ago of a young lady who had been killed by the vaccine. She was young, healthy and beautiful and similarly at low risk from covid.

These people did not need to be vaccinated Harry as they were at low risk from covid Harry. These are the cases that make it wrong to force, or propagandise, anybody into accepting the vaccine Harry. You are a nice man Harry but get a grip of yourself - where is your humanity? Do you simply accept these deaths as collateral damage Harry? How do you sleep at night Harry?

The madness of crowds Harry. The madness of crowds.
When you say they weren't at risk from Covid-19, what do you think their chance of death was?

1 in 100?
1 in 1,000?
1 in 10,000?
1 in 100,000?

Because unless you know what the risk from Covid is, worrying about the risk from a vaccine is stupid.

There's a good paper here that'll help you find out if you're not sure.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2918-0
 
He was aged 41 and healthy, and therefore not at risk from covid

everybody is at risk


“Almost three quarters of people under 50 who needed hospital treatment for the COVID Delta variant over the last seven months in England were unvaccinated, figures have revealed.

Data released by Public Health England showed 9,472 people were admitted to hospital with the highly transmissible coronavirusvariant between 1 February and 29 August.”




Of this number, 5,098 were below the age of 50 and 4,374 were aged 50 or over

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-th...irus-are-unvaccinated-figures-reveal-12398321
 
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