New oven tripping - now with pictures

[EFLImpudence]

There was tripping when using the angle grinder.

 

[Johnmcb]

Correct - i think these are for a dissused alarm system I'll try disconnect them tonight.

If not used then you could leave them there.

Or should I move the oven to the other N bar?

You could do that -

OR

If you feel comfortable doing it, all that needs to be done is:

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That is - connect the left N bar to the middle N bar instead of the right N bar.
That is the only fault.

I'm just getting my head round this, why the hell would an electrician do this?
heres his website - still touting the NAPIT and Electric safe! http://www.a-aelectrics.co.uk/

 

[Johnmcb]

There was tripping when using the angle grinder.

Yeah thats why i called him out the first time - he "sorted" this but recommended a new CU as the wiring of the existing one was "bad" which i thought was a good idea not knowing the history of the house

 

[EFLImpudence]

I'm getting a little confused.

Is the oven the only circuit in the left Neural bar which is in use?



He wouldn't do it on purpose - just got confused or the blue cables mixed up.

 

[Johnmcb]

I'm getting a little confused.

Is the oven the only circuit in the left Neural bar which is in use?



He wouldn't do it on purpose - just got confused or the blue cables mixed up.

As far as I'm aware yes as there is no power to the alarm and its not turned on anyware.

I've noticed something else;

Please excuse my shoddy drawing - The big pink circle to the left is everything connected to the N bar in question plus the oven (I believe to be the alarm or something else not in use as i can't trace it) BUT as you can see theres 3 neutrals connected and only 2 Lives, WTF? Theres a brown live missing!

 

[EFLImpudence]

Yes, I noticed that; there doesn't appear to be a brown from this circled cable ???

 

[Taylortwocities]

The original borrowed neutral?

It may be worth disconnecting it from the neutral bar and and seeing
1. if the oven now works
2. is anything else has stopped working.

but this is all guesstimation stuff and not a recommended way to fault find electrical problems.

it really needs an experienced head on site.

 

[EFLImpudence]

It does - but if the left and right neutral bars are connected - they shouldn't be.

 

[Johnmcb]

Yes, I noticed that; there doesn't appear to be a brown from this circled cable ???

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Would there be a reason for that or should I discard it?

 

[EFLImpudence]

Would there be a reason for that or should I discard it?

As TTC says? I don't know.

 

[Johnmcb]

Would there be a reason for that or should I discard it?

As TTC says? I don't know.

OK - thanks for all your input guys, I'm curious about these things and love to know how things work, you've all helped me learn a little more about my setup which I can inform the electrician about when he comes.

 

[JohnW2]

... you've all helped me learn a little more about my setup which I can inform the electrician about when he comes.

Fair enough - but I think you'll find that any competent electrician will only need to glance at that CU to realise that it has been configured (and quite possibly wired) inappropriately.

Kind Regards, John

 

[Echo the husky]

I have reported him to NAPIT and they are pursuing legal action.

Please let us know how this goes, there is so much awful electrical work going on and it needs to stop.

 

[Echo the husky]

I'm just getting my head round this, why the hell would an electrician do this?
heres his website - still touting the NAPIT and Electric safe! http://www.a-aelectrics.co.uk/

I love how it says 'Making good connections' at the top of every page! Perhaps he has terrible eyesight? I also read the testimonials and I thought it was odd that they are all written in the same poor way as the rest of the website...

I would be so ashamed to put in wiring like that, to then charge a customer for it is just mind boggling.

 

[Spark123]

The dis-board on the website appears to me to be American