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case 19.74
mobo 27.59
mem 15.00
cpu 29.99
hd 22.79
dvdrw 12.19
Celeron D, 2gig RAM, on-board video, 120Gig HD, DVD WR, basic case
For a cheap as chips build this would suffice a silver surfer not likely to play games or RIP media from the net....you agree?
No, actually. I would not buy, build, or specify a machine like that for myself or a customer. That's a crippled and underspecified machine with substandard parts. And I honestly cannot believe you specified a laptop HDD for a normal desktop machine. Spending just two pounds more would significantly increase performance on that point alone.
Hell, the case you picked doesn't even let you mount a 2.5" HDD without spending more than £2.20 on a bracket!
And the PSU is as likely to electrocute your cat as power a PC.
Oh yeah, and feel free to link me to the Celeron D, because they haven't got one single Celeron D CPU on their site.
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Igorian
I think you are seriously exaggerating and being extremely picky. You can use velcro to secure the drive for 50p.
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I think you are seriously exaggerating and being extremely picky. You can use velcro to secure the drive for 50p.
Ahaha. No.
Strong elastic cord, on the other hand..
If someone needed just a case and all they had was £125 and all they were ever going to do was internet, this would definitely suffice regardless what you personally would prefer to build, even in a workplace this would be OK for a terminal box to run citrix client
A laptop hard drive can held in place with one screw only, as long as you don't share a trampoline with your PC they are light enough to stay in place if the PC itself is kept stationary its not ideal but if it works then who cares!!
"And the PSU is as likely to electrocute your cat as power a PC" - Very intelligent comment, are you saying 500W isn't enough, I am quickly realising the extent of your IT knowledge
Typing too quickly I put "Celeron D" because I dont have 8 hours a day to sit on here it is infact a "Celeron" Clock speed 1.8 GHz, Level 2 cache (kb) 512, 64-bit support Yes (EM64T), Core Conroe-L, Fsb 800 MHz, Manufacturing process 65 nm, Number of cores 1, Retail/oem Retail, Socket LGA775, Warranty 3 Year Manufacturer, sadly in past few days its discontinued
So I do apologise for putting D at the end of that
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LooPrEvil
Securespark, a couple of additional things for you to bear in mind is that you are getting a valid licence for the Windows 7 operating system, and thwy are not particularly cheap! Also you have a 12 month warranty, for the system.
With self build you have to be very careful where you buy your parts from, for example if you buy Mobo, cpu, and memory from differing suppliers, if the system does not work when built you have a hell of a job identifying which is the faulty component, cpu supplier will blame mobo supplier etc and vice versa!
You can buy cheaper from a local computer fair, but dont just buy of the cheapest. Do your homework, find out if that supplier has a shop close to you that you can visit if you get any problems. Bear in mind a lot of fly boys sell at these places, and may not be there if you later have a problem!
I agree with those who say it is not worthwhile self building. There are some very keen prices to be had when buying the full system.
You need to think about what you want the systen for. If its for gaming you will need a good specication graphics card, which do not come particularly cheaply - not an issue for bog standard office computing / internet use etc.
Lou.
With self build you have to be very careful where you buy your parts from, for example if you buy Mobo, cpu, and memory from differing suppliers, if the system does not work when built you have a hell of a job identifying which is the faulty component, cpu supplier will blame mobo supplier etc and vice versa!
You can buy cheaper from a local computer fair, but dont just buy of the cheapest. Do your homework, find out if that supplier has a shop close to you that you can visit if you get any problems. Bear in mind a lot of fly boys sell at these places, and may not be there if you later have a problem!
I agree with those who say it is not worthwhile self building. There are some very keen prices to be had when buying the full system.
You need to think about what you want the systen for. If its for gaming you will need a good specication graphics card, which do not come particularly cheaply - not an issue for bog standard office computing / internet use etc.
Lou.
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Igorian
If someone needed just a case and all they had was £125 and all they were ever going to do was internet, this would definitely suffice regardless what you personally would prefer to build, even in a workplace this would be OK for a terminal box to run citrix client
A laptop hard drive can held in place with one screw only, as long as you don't share a trampoline with your PC they are light enough to stay in place if the PC itself is kept stationary its not ideal but if it works then who cares!!
"And the PSU is as likely to electrocute your cat as power a PC" - Very intelligent comment, are you saying 500W isn't enough, I am quickly realising the extent of your IT knowledge
Typing too quickly I put "Celeron D" because I dont have 8 hours a day to sit on here it is infact a "Celeron" Clock speed 1.8 GHz, Level 2 cache (kb) 512, 64-bit support Yes (EM64T), Core Conroe-L, Fsb 800 MHz, Manufacturing process 65 nm, Number of cores 1, Retail/oem Retail, Socket LGA775, Warranty 3 Year Manufacturer, sadly in past few days its discontinued
So I do apologise for putting D at the end of that
Would you really build and supply a machine for your employer or customer and trim the cost by missing out the correct mountings or screws to secure the components?
Do you really believe that a case/PSU combination costing less than £20 is going to have a PSU truly rated at 500W? There is a fairly good article here about PSU quality and manufacturer specifications. I wonder if you could actually find the true specification for the PSU in that case.
Can you confirm that the PSU and memory appear on the motherboard manufacturers HCL?
You are still missing the operating system, keyboard and mouse in your specification.
You also say the CPU has been discontinued in the last few days, but you only posted your specification yesterday, so you didn't check did you.
There's more to building machines than just bunging a pile of non descript components in a box.
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LooPrEvil
The fact a CPU has recently been discontinued is not necessarily a bad thing.
The CPU will still do today, what is would have done yesterday. It will just be available at a cheaper cost.
We need to bear in mind the application that the OP wishes to use the system for to assess what is best value.
Igorian does make some very valuable comments in his post.
Lou.
The CPU will still do today, what is would have done yesterday. It will just be available at a cheaper cost.
We need to bear in mind the application that the OP wishes to use the system for to assess what is best value.
Igorian does make some very valuable comments in his post.
Lou.
Quality workmanship right there. Again, for two pounds more you get a faster, larger HDD which doesn't require bodging.
I see you don't grasp the difference between (supposed) quantity and quality. I realised the extent of your lack of hardware knowledge some time ago..
Typing too quickly I put "Celeron D" because I dont have 8 hours a day to sit on here it is infact a "Celeron" Clock speed 1.8 GHz, Level 2 cache (kb) 512, 64-bit support Yes (EM64T), Core Conroe-L, Fsb 800 MHz, Manufacturing process 65 nm, Number of cores 1, Retail/oem Retail, Socket LGA775, Warranty 3 Year Manufacturer, sadly in past few days its discontinued
So I do apologise for putting D at the end of that
Still a Celeron, and not visible on their site a mere 30 minutes after you posted..
LooPrEvil said:
I feel that I should point out that any system I priced up would not only have a valid copy of Windows 7, but most of the components would have a three year warranty or better.
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LooPrEvil
[quote="Monkeh";p="1890464]I feel that I should point out that any system I priced up would not only have a valid copy of Windows 7, but most of the components would have a three year warranty or better.[/quote]
3 year warranty on components - that is excellent, but how do you manage that, as it is better than the OEMs offer?
3 year warranty on components - that is excellent, but how do you manage that, as it is better than the OEMs offer?
By purchasing components which come supplied with such a warranty. Good quality RAM has a lifetime warranty. Most HDDs are three or five years. Some of the PSUs I use come with seven year warranties. I get ten years on high end graphics cards, lower end cards from the same manufacturer come with two or three years, depending on the card.
AMD and Intel CPUs are three years for boxed components.
The only real exceptions are motherboards, cases, and cheap PSUs. Small add-on components don't really matter.
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LooPrEvil
Fair comment.
I am aware that the fully boxed OEM processors are tending to have 2 to 3 year warranties, I have not yet had 10 year warranty on a Graphics Card, but to be honest I have never purchased the top end stuff, but 10 years is longer than somebody will keep the machine! I have only had 1 year warranties on HDDs but will use that as possible criteria next time I am costing them up (although HDDs tend to be a reliable component).
Memory I agree can have a lifetime warranty but there tends to be caveats galore with them.
The only reliability issues I have generally come across are the failure of motherboards, which can tend to mean having to purchase a new CPU and memory as well, because within time you end up with technology progressing which makes older components incompatible with the new Mobo.
PSUs seem to also fail more frequently nowadays, but I tend to replace with a unit of a similar wattage, unbranded low cost option. I have never changed a PSU twice on the same machine, although one replacement was faulty (giving a slightly low output, that was outside the manufacture spec, so my supplier exchanged with no problems).
I am aware that the fully boxed OEM processors are tending to have 2 to 3 year warranties, I have not yet had 10 year warranty on a Graphics Card, but to be honest I have never purchased the top end stuff, but 10 years is longer than somebody will keep the machine! I have only had 1 year warranties on HDDs but will use that as possible criteria next time I am costing them up (although HDDs tend to be a reliable component).
Memory I agree can have a lifetime warranty but there tends to be caveats galore with them.
The only reliability issues I have generally come across are the failure of motherboards, which can tend to mean having to purchase a new CPU and memory as well, because within time you end up with technology progressing which makes older components incompatible with the new Mobo.
PSUs seem to also fail more frequently nowadays, but I tend to replace with a unit of a similar wattage, unbranded low cost option. I have never changed a PSU twice on the same machine, although one replacement was faulty (giving a slightly low output, that was outside the manufacture spec, so my supplier exchanged with no problems).
Funnily enough, HDDs are the second most unreliable component in my experience, right after RAM.
Not with any of mine. Memory fails, post back, get replacement in a few days.
Exactly what is bodged, depends how anal you are really! the extra £2 is a moo point the build I put together was a suggestion at what could be built on a very tight budget
Not had any complaints so far from all of my builds and I am still in regular contact with the majority of them, now and then a re-install to freshen it up but never anything else
Typing too quickly I put "Celeron D" because I dont have 8 hours a day to sit on here it is infact a "Celeron" Clock speed 1.8 GHz, Level 2 cache (kb) 512, 64-bit support Yes (EM64T), Core Conroe-L, Fsb 800 MHz, Manufacturing process 65 nm, Number of cores 1, Retail/oem Retail, Socket LGA775, Warranty 3 Year Manufacturer, sadly in past few days its discontinued
So I do apologise for putting D at the end of that
Still a Celeron, and not visible on their site a mere 30 minutes after you posted..
Maybe they have removed the link, here is mine from my history
http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Comp...cket+775)+Processor+-+Retail+?productId=27353
LooPrEvil said:
What the customer wants the customer gets and if that includes a legit license then they have to be prepared to pay the cost, how many on here would admit to using a non-legit version of windows, probably the same amount of people I have given a non-legit license to!!
Lets just agree to disagree this thread is boring me, you have your opinion I have mine, main thing to consider is what the customer is paying and what they are actually getting!!
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