“Those who give up liberty for security deserve neither.”
NHS Contact Tracing App
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durhamplumber
Life LAL,,not liberty.
More clarity about the app now. When people get it they enter symptoms and sounds like decisions are based on that. As it's software it would be pretty easy to have some alternatives built in that are disabled for if they are needed.
They could make a law that says people must download it onto all mobile phones.
They could make a law that says people must download it onto all mobile phones..... and even if they all do, half will reckon they have the 'rona when they haven't, and the other half will do the opposite (unless they really do have the' rona, in which case inputting some shoite into their 'phone will probably not be high on their list of priorities)
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Seems some people think when prompted by a reporter the right way that Gov will download all sorts from their phone. I find it hard to believe there are so many paranoid looneys about. Some reporters need to shot. Probably the best thing to do with them or at least lock them up. Couple of the usual papers as well due to all of the things they say people will be able to do next monday following Boris's exit plan*. Couldn't be that they would like to cause some trouble - they would then have something to report.
Snow mentioned the obvious hole ages ago - what if some one wants 14days of work? I mean true Brits never do that.
*Hope it's better and more solid than his Brexit plan - which they have backed down on in an odd way but no point in blaming them as no choice really. Now isn't the time to employ who knows how many border people but they could socially distance them all along the south coast 24hrs a day looking for boats containing 1000's of illegals.
Snow mentioned the obvious hole ages ago - what if some one wants 14days of work? I mean true Brits never do that.
*Hope it's better and more solid than his Brexit plan - which they have backed down on in an odd way but no point in blaming them as no choice really. Now isn't the time to employ who knows how many border people but they could socially distance them all along the south coast 24hrs a day looking for boats containing 1000's of illegals.
Which is no excuse for building something deliberately less secure and more open to abuse. They're having to work harder to make their variant work rather than using the one that's built using the tools Google and Apple have provided.
They will just find some way of using the info themselves. The exit to Gov might be to an odd sort of phone backed up by storage somewhere in GCHQ.
How do you know?
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EddieM
Still don't understand how the Google and Apple apps work, presumably they text people who the phone has logged they have been in close contact with, which of course is logged by the phone provider and stored in a database?
If someone tests positive then their phone posts its (randomly generated) ID publicly. Everyone else's phones can check that list to see if they've encountered it. If your phone finds a match on the public list with one that's on your phone then it tells you. It's a very scalable and abuse resistant approach.
As I understand the UK version it pushes the IDs of all the other phones it has encountered to the NHS server. That means that if you can de annonimise the IDs then you can quickly build a social map. Which has a lot of potential for misuse.
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Because they've (NHSX) said so in blog posts. Apple phones in particular will stop broadcasting aggressively when the phone screen isn't on and showing the app. The Apple/Google version is allowed to keep broadcasting.
Nice bit of contextomy there.
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Nice bit of contextomy there.
Looks like another c ock up by the incompetent Government. Come on mottie your work is cut out defending this shambles.
https://www.ft.com/content/d44beb06-5e3e-434f-a3a0-f806ce06576c
Health chiefs in the UK have tasked a team of software developers to “investigate” switching its unique contact-tracing app to the global standard proposed by Apple and Google, signalling a potential about-turn just days after the NHS launched its new coronavirus app.
Contract documents obtained by Tussell, a data provider on UK government contracts and expenditure, and shared with the Financial Times, show that the London office of Zuhlke Engineering, a Switzerland-based IT development firm, has been awarded a new multimillion pound contract by NHSX, the state-funded health service’s digital innovation arm. The six-month contract to develop and support the Covid-19 contact-tracing app is worth £3.8m and was due to begin on Wednesday, the documents show. The contract includes a requirement to “investigate the complexity, performance and feasibility of implementing native Apple and Google contact tracing APIs [application programming interfaces] within the existing proximity mobile application and platform”. The work is described as a “two week timeboxed technical spike”, suggesting it is still at a preliminary phase, but with a deadline of mid-May. An application programming interface is the means by which software developers access certain functions of a device’s operating system.
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EddieM
Posts it, how? via a text message presumably, which is traceable.
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Which system are you referring to? The Apple / Google approach?
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