Nigels view on how to stop the riots.

They tried to bring in the Rwandan deterrent at great cost but alas, the wishy washy's fúcked that up as well.
I strongly suspect that the point Starmer made also figured in Tory actions. The shear number of flights needed. A probable ie

Around 24,000 asylum applications were withdrawn in 2023, over four times more than the year before

Divide by 300 to get flights. Maybe read the rest and wonder what happened to the backlog

We see video of a wonderful hostel in Rwanda for them, long term support and still the need to process sensitive cases. Just how many hostels have been built?
 
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And there are legions who were far from unhappy that The Tories abandoned Conservative principles long ago.
'legions' is an interesting word...

Suggests an army, and we all know where that leads to...

As we are seeing being played out on the streets of the UK !
 
'legions' is an interesting word...

Suggests an army, and we all know where that leads to...

As we are seeing being played out on the streets of the UK !

Elly, please don't let your imagination run away with you. No gammon Conservatives are out there protesting about the murder of 6 year old girls at present. They're all busy writing stiff letters to their MPs.
 
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OK, then how about migrants living it up on the taxpayers in 4* hotels, 3 square meals a day, pocket money, dentist, doctor, etc, etc - while our own homeless, inc many veterans, can only hope for shop doorways, Sally Army hostels or friend's sofa. Is that fair?
I'm going to say again, I firmly believe (much) more should be done to control who is coming into the UK. Government action on this has been p1ss poor, obviously we now need to give Labour a period of time to see if they can get to grips with it.

Linked to this, I also think we should be much more effective at removing people from the country if they don't meet the criteria to remain. This is easier said than done, appeals etc. Hence partly why the Rwanda scheme never got off the ground, pardon the pun (regardless of whether we think it was a good plan or not.)

However, having said all that, whilst I understand the sentiment behind the 'we should be looking after our own first' to a large extent it's a statement that makes little sense in my opinion. Here's why. We're never going to get to a stage where 'our own' are all sorted, whether referring to housing, healthcare, dental etc. So if we have a firm line about not helping others to at least some extent in parallel with our own, they would forever remain firmly at the bottom of the queue receiving nothing. Some might think that's fair, some won't.

What would you propose for the migrants that are here? Don't house them anywhere, don't feed them, give them nowt? Surely that would further push them to the fringes where they might, through sheer necessity, feel a need to engage in criminal activity e.g. to feed themselves.

I'm defending no government on this, however these issues are multi-faceted with no black and white answers.

As I mentioned in another post, dealing with homeless people is also multi-faceted. Re the tv prog I saw where three homeless people were housed and x weeks later two of them were back on the streets, through choice.
 
Boris Johnson created it as a deflection.

It's purpose was to direct blame onto "lefty lawyers" when it inevitably failed.

some people like you fell for it.
Still waiting for you to answer that question you keep swerving.
 
No gammon Conservatives are out there protesting about the murder of 6 year old girls at present.
You obviously haven't been following the news...

But hey, you still keep us laughing R&C...

At you ;)
 
As all thieves would claim :rolleyes:
No thieving involved. I just sat back, shut up and watched the moolah roll in by the bucket load. They couldn’t give me enough of the stuff. Still got some left. TBH, I’ve had trouble spending it - not much I want or need. (y)
 
You obviously haven't been following the news...

But hey, you still keep us laughing R&C...

At you ;)

Yes, Elly. Whatever. :rolleyes:

Easy to deny reality, because it wasn't your family being stabbed to death. Maybe not so lucky next time.................................
 
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