old fuse box

So, you tell 'em to add a separate small, new consumer unit, just for the a/c, and leave your 'fusebox' undisturbed..

You could also add a separate, large, new one, giving space to add other circuits in future. A large empty box costs little more than a small empty box.

This would be a good time to start out with an RCBO for your new circuit, and use them for other circuits if and when required.
 
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Theres different answers all over the internet

You won't get the right answer unless you provide enough information to compose the right question.

I could make a guess but that would not be helpful.
 
i added an external AC and this has opened up can of worms. Theyre saying it cant be plugged in to socket. But it cant be wired back to the fuse box since its too old. And they wont replace the fuse box without rewiring entire house. Its ridiculous
This would have been raised before the AC was installed, and clearly they will not install it if the supply is not suitable, this includes the fuse size, it does I know seem wrong, the whole idea of inventing the 13 amp socket was so the post war homes could be electrically heated, and to be fair using a couple of oil filled radiators and moving them room to room as required works, so why not a heat pump, which should use less power?

Well in the main as we are trying to heat/cool whole house, and within a set time frame. My central heating boiler is 20 kW, ample to maintain the home temperature, but we don't maintain the temperature, but allow it to cool over night or when out, so looking at recovery time, and at work they have one hour to get offices to temperature so seems reasonable that at home we can reheat a room in an hour, and one room yes, whole house no, so I heat rooms in sequence.

So really looking for more than 20 kW, so a heat pump for this house looking at some where around the 10 kW or more, so convert to amps, around 44 amp. And the supply fuse is 60 amp, so if using a heat pump, could not also use the electric showers, as would be over the 60 amp.

So this house would need the supply upgrading to 100 amp, and to do that the consumer unit would not be big enough, I can get 22 amp from the solar, and so a 100 amp DNO fuse would mean I could be using 122 amp, so would need to install a fuse to limit supply to consumer unit.

The solar has already resulted in a second consumer unit, but this would not impact on the house wiring, all required would be local to the flat where the grid supply, solar supply and battery are located.

Now dads house built 1954 had rubber insulated cable which had started to crumble. So in that case a full rewire was required, but this had nothing to do with the new kitchen or wet room, it simply needed doing, I did do it after his death, but it should have been done earlier. However we could not force him, we had to find ways around the problem, like a mini consumer unit in the kitchen from a SWA cable run around outside of house, not ideal, but he had dug his heals in, and said I am not living in a building site, you can do it when I'm dead, which is what happened.

So big question is was it wired before or after 1966? The time 1954 to 1966 what when we used rubber cable, so had that house been 15 years younger there would have been no problem. Although my dads DIY had not helped.
 
i added an external AC and this has opened up can of worms.

Ah the reason

Theyre saying it cant be plugged in to socket.

Definitely agree with this
But it cant be wired back to the fuse box since its too old.

Not necessarily the case
And they wont replace the fuse box without rewiring entire house. Its ridiculous

They sound like they are lacking in competence - don't use them

Find another spark


Eyes on site trumps random internet advice
 
why can a washing machine or oven be plugged in then? i dont think split ACs were considered when they came up with the rules because even now in the UK AC are not common. 20-30 years ago it would have only been used in comercial premises where it would be hard wired.
 
Simple answer - If it comes with a 13amp plug already fitted, then it can be plugged into, and is intended to be plugged into a socket. If not, then it cannot.
 
To be honest I dont want agreement or disagreement. I need to know what the law or regulations say
You haven't told us enough to form a reliable answer.

What is the supply power rating of your AC unit?

Do the instructions say it must be RCD protected?

Is there an existing 13A socket nearby?

Do the instructions say it can be plugged into a 13A socket?
 
To be honest I dont want agreement or disagreement. I need to know what the law or regulations say

The Law:

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and in England:

The Regulations:
400-odd page book
 

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