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[IT Minion]

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No idea...but as I say.....100%GDP would not solve NHS problems...It would create more cures and hence more demand,forever

So, nothing to contribute at all? Not even a more or less than currently?

 

[durhamplumber]

So, nothing to contribute at all? Not even a more or less than currently?

Are you hard of reading? Or hard of interpreting?

 

[IT Minion]

Are you hard of reading? Or hard of interpreting?

Are you hard of answering?

 

[SirGalahad]

 

[Vinty]

Its a no Brainer really, either a public health service or a private health service.
Either way you will still have to pay for it through taxes to the government or Premiums to a private health company.
A public health service is fairer and cheaper as risk is shared across the whole population and you have economies of scale.
A private system your premiums are based on your individual circumstances, so i would guess that as you get older your premiums would rise to the point where in the event you get a long term illness the insurance company doesn't want you as a customer.
It doesn't seem fair that someone should be penalised for getting old or ill.

 

[durhamplumber]

Its a no Brainer really, either a public health service or a private health service.
Either way you will still have to pay for it through taxes to the government or Premiums to a private health company.
A public health service is fairer and cheaper as risk is shared across the whole population and you have economies of scale.
A private system your premiums are based on your individual circumstances, so i would guess that as you get older your premiums would rise to the point where in the event you get a long term illness the insurance company doesn't want you as a customer.
It doesn't seem fair that someone should be penalised for getting old or ill.

The US model is a complete disaster

 

[noseall]

The US model is a complete disaster

You needn't have written 'model'.

 

[motorbiking]

So how much more are people going to put in - £1000, £500 £5,000 a year?

 

[fillyboy]

So how much more are people going to put in - £1000, £500 £5,000 a year?

I was thinking more along the lines of 1-2% on income tax.

 

[EddieM]

The NHS started in a very different UK...Pre antibiotics,pre millions of cars..pre excess calories...People worked long hours,exercised more...no spare part surgerys..no fast food..Lazy buggers driving everywhere...eating crap.etc etc...Diabetes was not a huge self induced cost..god knows how many people are kept half alive after RTA..s strokes etc etc....Bariatric surgery unheard of....No matter how much money is thrown it will never be enough..The more money invested the better it will get at keeping people alive....Investment will never keep pace because it just invents more demand forever

Penicillin was being mass produced by 1944 [/pedant].

 

[Notch7]

Only those of limited intelligence think money is limitless

no, those of us with limited intelligence choose to use an 'appeal to extremes' logical fallacy argument instead of having a proper discussion.

heres a thought, what about paying similar to Germany? -its not stupidly more than the UK.
we could compare their waiting lists, success with cancer etc etc and see if there are benefits to spending more.

of course it would mean not having a Tory party put NHS contracts out to tender in exchange for MPs getting some lobby money.....vested self interests rather makes things too expensive (see USA for example)

 

[festive]

I was thinking more along the lines of 1-2% on income tax.

Why should we pay for it when Starbucks etc dont. They should put big pressure on all these companies to do the right thing. Although I'm sure someone will be bribed to do the righter thing and let them continue.

 

[noseall]

Although I'm sure someone will be bribed to do the righter thing and let them continue.

AKA - lobbying.

There are millionaires being made by those feverishly lobbying to privatise the NHS, now that the Tories are in for another term.

 

[festive]

AKA - lobbying.

There are millionaires being made by those feverishly lobbying to privatise the NHS, now that the Tories are in for another term.

Well that's another story i guess which is beyond my understanding. All i know is a friend of mine runs his own company that contracts for NHS he is very well off indeed, mixed feelings on that one.

 

[noseall]

Well that's another story i guess

Quite relevant to the thread topic though.