Outdoor socket replacement

[Risteard]

Sorry dont know why it posted 3 times...but this shows you can use SRCD's This was taken from the NICEIC magazine

No, it doesn't show that you can use them.

It expresses the NICEIC's (or someone therein's) opinion.

However if you actually go to BS 7288 the current Standard CLEARLY states that these devices CANNOT be used to provide additional protection. I do not believe that a future Amendment to BS 7671:2018 is set to permit these devices. (Otherwise they could have included it in Amendment 1 quite easily, which was published in February.)

 

[EFLImpudence]

Are you saying the use of these sockets is prohibited?

Whatever any document or someone's opinion says, the fitting of such a socket to a circuit where there was no circuit RCD protection before (and even if there was) is clearly, by definition, giving additional protection to users of equipment plugged in to that socket - if only because, I believe, the socket will not turn on if the CPC is not connected.

 

[Risteard]

Are you saying the use of these sockets is prohibited?

Absolutely not. But you still need a 30mA RCD upstream of them, so they are pointless.

 

[EFLImpudence]

Absolutely not.

Ok.

But you still need a 30mA RCD upstream of them, so they are pointless.

It therefore depends on whether people think 'additional protection' is a specific thing or it is 'aditional' protection that was not there before it was fitted.

A bit like supplementary bonding.

 

[markyd1]

That was printed in the niceic magazine....it's from the IET....but of course you know better.....

 

[Risteard]

That was printed in the niceic magazine....it's from the IET....but of course you know better.....

It's not from the IET, much less from JPEL/64.

In fact if you read the IET Forum the general consensus is that the devices were deliberately precluded from BS7671.

 

[Taylortwocities]

Oh so interesting. But your interjection has completely stopped the OP from answering my key question to him/her. Do I will ask again to @MrSPV

Is the circuit that feeds this socket on an RCD?.

 

[JohnW2]

Oh so interesting. But your interjection has completely stopped the OP from answering my key question to him/her. Do I will ask again to @MrSPV

Is the circuit that feeds this socket on an RCD?

Yes, it has its own RCD in the house.

... followed by ...

Ok, great.

Kind Regards, John

 

[Taylortwocities]

Oh blimey, thanks @JohnW2

too much stuff going on in my head at the moment.

 

[AndyPRK]

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/153876581033

 

[EFLImpudence]

Ah, yes, an active RCD.

Another 'additional' protection.