Panorama - The Smart Meter mess

[Nwgs2]

Ah, so selective quoting in an attempt to defend the indefensible...

You and nosenothing have lost the argument as you fully know!

They lost pages ago.

They just can’t admit it. Sad really.

 

[ellal]

Nonsense.


Correct.


Correct. I have never stated anything different.


The truth....

Disconnection is rare.

The processes leading up to disconnection are the same for both meters.

You are no more likely to be disconnected or switched with either meter.

Amazing how many times you twist and turn, but you still wont admit you are simply wrong!

 

[denso13]

You and nosenothing have lost the argument as you fully know!

Have you posted the figures yet?

There is no evidence to suggest you are at more risk of switching or disconnection by either meter.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

as in when the meter is ACTUALLY about to be disconnected

LEADING up to that point, yes

 

[Nwgs2]

The processes leading up to being cut off are the same for both meters.

You are no more likely to be switched or cut off with either meter.

But it’s easier to turn the gas off with a SM

FACT

 

[gas112]

LEADING up to that point, yes

So leading up to that point of meter actually just about to be disconnected IS different . Glad we agree

 

[Nwgs2]

So leading up to that point of meter actually just about to be disconnected IS different . Glad we agree

He’ll be stuck in the loop soon.

Noseall is hysterical!! What a plum.

 

[ajohn]

So there’s still the issue of access for a lot of dumb meters.

So gov decides smart meters are a good idea from consulations. The drive for them is down to bills, no meter readers and demand monitoring for the electric power generators. Those need regular readings at some rate or the other. Daily wouldn't be much use to them.

So as usual the gov passes things over to the companies who are involved and tells them to find a solution. Gas and electric are the same in this respect. Generators, suppliers and consumers. Gas is stored so there must be adequate amounts in storage. It's the suppliers that see the most gain so they finish up with the SM work and add what they want to the functionality. Ideally never any need to visit a meter.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

So leading up to that point of meter actually just about to be disconnected IS different . Glad we agree

I'm surprised you've agreed

It's the point that's been made all along.

The processes leading up to

Took you a while, but well done.. actually cutting them off is, or may be, different

 

[noseall]

but you still wont admit you are simply wrong!

About this...

The truth....

Disconnection is rare.

The processes leading up to disconnection are the same for both meters.

You are no more likely to be disconnected or switched with either meter.

...not in the slightest.

Those are facts boyo. I'm waiting for you to dispute them (he won't, he can't).

 

[Nwgs2]

So gov decides smart meters are a good idea from consulations. The drive for them is down to bills, no meter readers and demand monitoring for the electric power generators. Those need regular readings at some rate or the other. Daily wouldn't be much use to them.

So as usual the gov passes things over to the companies who are involved and tells them to find a solution. Gas and electric are the same in this respect. Generators, suppliers and consumers. Gas is stored so there must be adequate amounts in storage. It's the suppliers that see the most gain so they finish up with the SM work and add what they want to the functionality. Ideally never any need to visit a meter.

You’re clearly missed my point.

Never mind.

 

[noseall]

It's the point that's been made all along.

The processes leading up to

Took you a while, but well done.. actually cutting them off is, or may be, different

I'm baffled as to why the anti SM morons can't read a simple sentence. Laughably, they revert to "but it's easier to disconnect with an SM" or "you don't need a warrant, blah, blah blah...", without actually reading what was posted.

None of what the idiots have said changes these simple facts...

Disconnection is rare.

The processes leading up to disconnection are the same for both meters.

You are no more likely to be disconnected or switched with either meter.

 

[ellal]

About this...

...not in the slightest.

Those are facts boyo. I'm waiting for you to dispute them (he won't, he can't).

Well 'boyo', you can carry on in your delusional state if you like...

It gives those with the power of reason to have a good laugh

Do you also say that 'load management' to individual households or groups of households won't ever happen with smart meters?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Well 'boyo', you can carry on in your delusional state if you like...

It gives those with the power of reason to have a good laugh

Do you also say that 'load management' to individual households or groups of households won't ever happen with smart meters?

Why are you conflating 2 (or more) different points ?

 

[noseall]

Well 'boyo', you can carry on

Thankyou.

Feel free to dispute these facts...

Disconnection is rare.

The processes leading up to disconnection are the same for both meters.

You are no more likely to be disconnected or switched with either meter.

...he won't he can't.