Peoples Vote

[SammyInnit]

I see silly Sammy is making things up again.

Silly, silly Sammy.

I remember, before the first referendum, some dumb plumber claiming it would be a landslide "out" vote because (he claimed) he had only met Quitters and never met a Remainer.

Never believe a plumber.

Your words. I've made nothing up, you just won't accept the reality of what you're saying. At this point imI not sure if you're thick, dishonest or both.

 

[JohnD]

it means LEAVE, not stay a little bit, but leave.That is what I voted for.

Theresa has sent her letter of resignation. So we are resigning our membership. We give up our seat on the Council, our votes in the Parliament, and our voice in the committees. That means leaving.

However, we hope that we will be able to continue to trade, in some way, with the world's largest market, and we hope that they will allow us to provide Financial Services to them. We hope to be able to maintain air travel between their countries and ours. We hope to have fishing agreements with them. We hope to arrange travel and visa agreements. To do that, we need to agree various terms with them.

Surely you didn't think that resigning from the golf club enables you to continue playing on the course and using the clubhouse? If we want to, we have to ask permission and pay the fees.

Or did you think that resigning from the club means we will stop playing golf? And stop international trade in goods and services?

 

[Yafo]

No, we want to leave, they wont let us. Next question.

Explain what they are doing wrong?

Explain why you think we should get everything we want ? If we could get everything we wanted without any of the drawbacks I would have voted for that.

But I thought it through. You voted for ALL OF THIS! Remainers didn't

 

[JohnD]

By John's logic it can't be xenophobia because factors are irrelevant.

I see silly Sammy is making things up again.

Silly, silly Sammy.

There is no reference to "factors" or "xenophobia" or "irrelevance" in my post.

Sammy is just making it up.

 

[Ihavenojob]

with the world's largest market,

Wrong, eu 22% of world gdp, which includes us, so there is a bigger 78% market out there for us to trade with.

 

[Yafo]

Wrong, eu 22% of world gdp, which includes us, so there is a bigger 78% market out there for us to trade with.

What part of the rest of the world do we not trade with?

About the only 2 places I can name are Cuba and North Korea. But I might even be wrong there.

 

[Ihavenojob]

What part of the rest of the world do we not trade with?

About the only 2 places I can name are Cuba and North Korea. But I might even be wrong there.

Do you not agree that 78% is larger than 22 %?

 

[SammyInnit]

I see silly Sammy is making things up again.

Silly, silly Sammy.

There is no reference to "factors" or "xenophobia" or "irrelevance" in my post.

Sammy is just making it up.

There are, quite obviously, if one person suggests all he knows is like minded people yet the result of the vote was almost break even there are clearly differing factors at play based on what that person knows or believes to be true based on what's told to them by people around them; the graphs earlier back up what I've said.

I remember, before the first referendum, some dumb plumber claiming it would be a landslide "out" vote because (he claimed) he had only met Quitters and never met a Remainer.

Never believe a plumber.

John D removing all factors to make a point.

On the same basis he can no longer call rabid quitters xenophobes because there are no factors that may bias a decision.

A working class person, surrounded by people of the same social economic position, might vote one way while a middle class person surrounded by people of the same social economic position might vote another...

Never believe JohnD.

Stop being dim.

 

[Yafo]

Do you not agree that 78% is larger than 22 %?

I do, it is.

Just name the places we don't trade with

 

[Ihavenojob]

I do, it is.

Well , try telling JohnD, he thinks the eu is the worlds largest market. As to who we do or don't trade with, I haven't looked into it as it was never part of my question.

 

[ellal]

Do you not agree that 78% is larger than 22 %?

Show us the free trade deals with any of the 78% * then...

Oh that's right, you can't!

Meanwhile the EU has concluded favourable deals with other countries (amongst that 78%) who will then screw the UK until it hurts - because we will no longer be a 'big player'!

Brexit - the gift that keeps on giving!

*according to your figures

 

[SammyInnit]

You have a point...

Of course it can be shown that the senile and less well educated tended to vote leave, and the younger and better educated people tended to vote remain

There's no pretending about it, since multiple analyses of the referendum vote (from both sides of the argument) have shown the same thing - and come to the same conclusions!

If you think that is an 'insult', then maybe you ought to look at yourself and ask why you think it to be an 'insult'

(no conferring with durhamplumber )

You think calling anyone who disagrees with you, senile is anything but insulting?

Let's for a moment pretend you have a point and you're not just insulting anyone with a different opinion to yourself.

By John's logic it can't be xenophobia because factors are irrelevant.

So why do you think these people voted to leave?

As I've said before, you're shamefully vulgar and ever more predictable.

All that Ellal brand waffle and still no answers.

 

[ellal]

Politics in this country has been reduced to a fight between the 'dancing queen' and a couple of toffs on the make...

And all of them are p issing themselves laughing at the leave voting numpties...

Because they make their fortunes whilst the vast majority suffer!

 

[JohnD]

I remember, before the first referendum, some dumb plumber claiming it would be a landslide "out" vote because (he claimed) he had only met Quitters and never met a Remainer.

Never believe a plumber.

Tell me, Sammy.

Was it a Landslide "Out" vote?

What sort of person would predict that, without looking at the newspapers, the TV or the internet? Or even this forum?

Let's suppose somebody claimed they had only met "out" voters and they lived in Scotland?

Would that seem credible?

 

[ellal]

You think calling anyone who disagrees with you, senile is anything but insulting?

As usual little sammy doesn't understand the simple things and tries to twist it towards it's own warped understanding of life...

Show me where I said "You think calling anyone who disagrees with you, senile"

Of course it can be shown that the senile and less well educated tended to vote leave, and the younger and better educated people tended to vote remain

The clue is in the word 'and' btw

But then if you're not 'senile', it could mean you are 'less well educated'