Ah, but what if I was right?
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I would just like to add that doitall has a perfectly valid point, and that nobody has genuinely understood it.
physics puzzle no.2
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I would just like to add that doitall has a perfectly valid point, and that nobody has genuinely understood it.
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Ah, but what if I was right?
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I would just like to add that doitall has a perfectly valid point, and that nobody has genuinely understood it.
Why thank you Softus.
What they can't get into their heads is, the difference between what was said and what is possible, or impossible.
The only relevant part is what was said.
Softus wrote
I understand his point perfectly but to agree to what he is saying you would need to re-arrange the original question.
Diyitall wrote
The only relevant part IMO is the original question. If you want to persuade Softus to write a new one to suit your argument then feel free.
I understand his point perfectly but to agree to what he is saying you would need to re-arrange the original question.
Diyitall wrote
The only relevant part IMO is the original question. If you want to persuade Softus to write a new one to suit your argument then feel free.
The engines thrust will still outweigh the wheels turning, the conveyor turning, etc. I can't see what other angle there is, Softus ........
We know the thrust will outweigh the wheels turning, that is irrelevant, the wheel speed has to match the belt or all bets are off.
The engines thrust will still outweigh the wheels turning, the conveyor turning, etc. I can't see what other angle there is, Softus ........
We know the thrust will outweigh the wheels turning, that is irrelevant,
The thrust is totally relevant to the original question which is what this argument is about.
the wheel speed has to match the belt or all bets are off.
Define speed ?
the point i was trying to make is that the wheels and their relationship with the belt, cannot, on their own restrict forward movement.
if you added a force that countered the winch or (ref the other post) the engine's action with the air, then maybe.
doitall repeatedly assumed that the moving conveyor alone would be enough to counter the engines thrust. wrong.
whether his later posts seek to steer around his earlier glaring mistakes, then maybe this is an admission that he has finally understood.
if you added a force that countered the winch or (ref the other post) the engine's action with the air, then maybe.
doitall repeatedly assumed that the moving conveyor alone would be enough to counter the engines thrust. wrong.
whether his later posts seek to steer around his earlier glaring mistakes, then maybe this is an admission that he has finally understood.
Diyitall wrote
Yep. Nonsensical is an apt description indeed.
Again no definition of wheel speed in relation to the belt speed is given for diyitall to arrive at this conclusion.
You don't need to know the wheel speed, land speed is measured between the contact point of two surfaces, if one is going the opposite way then one or the other has to go faster, in this case if you drag the object forward it must be going faster than the surface
I assumed no such thing. I said the plane will not take off, and I'll say it again, if you stick to the OPs post the plane will not take off
the plane will take off.
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