Physics Question

[joe-90]

Are you saying that if the sun disappeared that the planets would carry on as if nothing had happened? What a load of tosh.

 

[TheOriginalTonkaToy]

For a time they would, yes.

 

[joe-90]

Rubbish.

 

[TheOriginalTonkaToy]

Rubbish.

Care to back that up with some real science?

 

[joe-90]

That is real science. You are saying that the massive influence of the sun - has no real influence. FFS.

 

[TheOriginalTonkaToy]

That is real science. You are saying that the massive influence of the sun - has no real influence. FFS.

Show me where I said that.

Provide me with a scientific argument that things would instantly change or admit you're wrong

 

[joe-90]

I've told you. The mass of the sun warps space. Take the sun away and that 'warping' has gone. No more gravity. How much more effect do you need?

 

[joe-90]

http://www.iceagenow.com/Solar_System_Relative_Size.htm

Look at the third picture down. Now tell me that taking the sun away won't make any difference.

 

[TheOriginalTonkaToy]

You're either still missing the point or you're being deliberately obtuse. Any effect would not be instantaneous - that would violate several laws of physics.

 

[joe-90]

Forget the laws mate - the sun can't disappear. It's not a real question, just hypothetical. If the sun disappeared - you say nothing would happen.

Are you saying that the gravity produced by the sun's mass is insignificant? In fact. What are you saying?

 

[sooey]

You're either still missing the point or you're being deliberately obtuse. Any effect would not be instantaneous - that would violate several laws of physics.

In that case what Brian Cox was on about with regard to the Pauli exclusion principle must too.

 

[TheOriginalTonkaToy]

Forget the laws mate - the sun can't disappear. It's not a real question, just hypothetical. If the sun disappeared - you say nothing would happen.

Are you saying that the gravity produced by the sun's mass is insignificant? In fact. What are you saying?

Good grief. I know it's a thought experiment which is why I used my brain to answer.

However, even as a thought experiment you don't ignore the laws of physics.

Nowhere in my responses have I said the Sun's influence is insignificant. Nor have I said nothing will happen. Try actually reading my posts rather than ignoring them and attributing made up responses to me. Everything you need to know about what I'm saying is in them.

 

[TheOriginalTonkaToy]

You're either still missing the point or you're being deliberately obtuse. Any effect would not be instantaneous - that would violate several laws of physics.

In that case what Brian Cox was on about with regard to the Pauli exclusion principle must too.

Erm, the relevance of the Pauli exclusion principle to this question is what exactly?

 

[noseall]

You're either still missing the point or you're being deliberately obtuse. Any effect would not be instantaneous - that would violate several laws of physics.

I said something similar in a earlier post.

Joe has lost this one and will continue to blather till he is blue in the face.

He will mislead, disrupt, counter with nonsense or stuff unrelated to the o.p. but he knows he is wrong, you can tell by his panicked postings.

 

[sooey]

You're either still missing the point or you're being deliberately obtuse. Any effect would not be instantaneous - that would violate several laws of physics.

In that case what Brian Cox was on about with regard to the Pauli exclusion principle must too.

Erm, the relevance of the Pauli exclusion principle to this question is what exactly?

Talking about instantaneous effects violating the laws of physics.

Cox was talking about electrons everywhere not being allowed to be in the same state, he said that if he heated up some material in his hand and caused the electrons to gain energy and switch states, then any other electrons anywhere else must instantly shuffle off to a different state.
We were talking about it a few pages back.