Plumbing training courses / qualifications

[nogoodatfaultfinding]

Im as qualified as i lawfully need to be to work on the systems im left alone on... You guys are all the same.. you think because you've served your time then thats the ONLY way it can be done.

I, and plenty of others, am proof that if you work hard enough these courses can pay off.

We've all been to jobs where some cowboy has royally **** up... ive seen jobs where fellas who have been time served and had 20+ years experienice have caused £1000s work of damage because they havent used an insert on their pushfit and walked right off the job

All comboys arent just career changers. FACT... The construction, especially the plumbing industry, has had a fowl reputation for years, far before these intensive courses came on the scene. Explain that....

The unexpected and false economy which was the new build housing boom caused the intensive course scheme which is now struggling as is the new build sector.
And as such only the strongest will survive my friend, meaning my CV which is time served VS MR 8 week course will rise to the top my only problem is beating off the other time served blokes.

 

[nogoodatfaultfinding]

We all know the reason you moan is because we're putting you out of work... not putting you in it...

I can assure you ya wont being called out by any of my customers

I aint moaning mate and more power to you if your getting on and making it but just remember they are not YOUR customers as you have already told us you are a lacky.

 

[Red_Man]

And as such only the strongest will survive my friend, meaning my CV which is time served VS MR 8 week course will rise to the top my only problem is beating off the other time served blokes.

Has a customer ever asked to see your CV? As im sure we both know.. ive been at this a whole lot less time that you... but im yet to come across a plumber who carries their Record of Achievment with them...

 

[Jezzy]

Someone has already said that the money is in the gas part of this job and it's true, but they forgot to mention that you have to re-sit all your exams every 5 years at your own expense (£2000ish) and you have to get your own gas safe every year (£200ish).
If you become an electrician i think you only need to update your skills when it goes up an edition, i.e. from 16th edition to 17th edition (someone will correct me on that if i'm wrong. Not sure about re-sit prices.
If i were you, i'd be a joiner/kitchen fitter. Once you've passed, that's it, no more exams ever, and i have a nephew who does this and is bloody loaded, and his dad was on £2000 a week in the early 90s doing the same thing. You've got to be good at it though.
There's not a lot of money in plumbing/gas as there are loads of people chasing the same work, but that will be the case with all of the above.
Good luck.

 

[tamz]

What is the general opinion for 'best' training qualifications.

Get yourself an apprenticeship There really is no substitute for proper training and experience.

Unfortunately as you have missed the boat on that one the only other route is the scam centres filling your head with promises of streets lined with ££££££.

The reality is too many fed up or unemployed career changers decide to jump on our already sinking ship because they believe the garbage being spouted. For every one who makes it there are 10 who don't. The one thing these courses will learn you, quicker than you would like, is you have just blown your hard earned cash on a pile of shyte and you know fk all. If you are really good and willing to put in the effort to teach yourself more than any training course ever could you "might" make it but most don't.
Firms and also sole traders are also now not so keen to take up on the offer of "free labour" as those who did have found it has often bit them on the asre.

All that is happening is our once fine trade is being decimated by people who spend money on the courses, think" they know what they are doing, find some work and contribute to the industry’s worsening image.
Plumbing is regulated in most other 1st world countries for very good reason. To protect the public and their health from people who don't know what they are doing. Perhaps we are becoming a 3rd world country after all?

Have a read at this you might learn something useful.
http://www.snijib.org/documents/PolicyPaperNo1FAstTrackTraining300909final.pdf

 

[nogoodatfaultfinding]

Has a customer ever asked to see your CV? As im sure we both know.. ive been at this a whole lot less time that you... but im yet to come across a plumber who carries their Record of Achievment with them...

Thats my bloody point they dont ask as they beleive that they are payin for a fully trained fully qualified proffesional person in their home otherwise they would have a go themselves.

 

[Red_Man]

As i said, im as fully qualified and trained as i lawfully need to be...

I've never had a customer complaint.

 

[tamz]

but im yet to come across a plumber who carries their Record of Achievment with them

I as all other fully qualified plumbers in Scotland and NI do. It's called a JIB card
Here is a link if you don't know what one looks like
http://www.snijib.org/

 

[nogoodatfaultfinding]

As i said, im as fully qualified and trained as i lawfully need to be...

I've never had a customer complaint.

Well your summit specail mate as on only 3 pages you state that you have never had a leak nor have you ever had a complaint.
I wonder how many of us time served folk could say that as i know i could not.
Saying that my apprentice never gets the blame for any wrongs and never hears about complaints when there are any.

 

[nogoodatfaultfinding]

but im yet to come across a plumber who carries their Record of Achievment with them

Do my Gas Safe and Corgi Part P cards count?

 

[tamz]

Do my Gas Safe and Corgi Part P cards count?

For what you do aye but the JIB card is the only one that says you are a fully qualified plumber and states your grade.
If you served your time and don't have one, you can get one no probs Contact the JIB-PMES (thats the England/Wales body)

 

[onlyfitidealboilers]

Love that "free labour" Id be charging you mate. Get nothing for nothing in this world.

 

[onlyfitidealboilers]

Do my Gas Safe and Corgi Part P cards count?

am right on your boat nogood ill get one too! laughin.

 

[tamz]

Cheers mate i will do just that

Have a wee read through the stuff on the link i gave earlier and you will get an idea of what it required.

It's time the gov got their act together and made plumbing registration compulsory.

 

[Red_Man]

Well your summit specail mate as on only 3 pages you state that you have never had a leak nor have you ever had a complaint.

I didn't say i have never had a leak. i said i've never left a customer with one.

You didnt answer my question... explain the woeful reputation plumbers earnt long before these fast track courses started.

Fact is, its down to the individual. If you're willing to put in the hard work, you can become a successful compitant plumber with a fast track course.