PM Dominic Cummings either resigns or is sacked.

[JohnD]

Do you remember him saying yesterday that he has never been tested?

That seems to be a grudging "yes" from vinty.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

I've been to Barnard Castle. I can't see why anyone would go there to get their eyes tested.
I used to have a picture somewhere.

Aahh, here it is

 

[Vinty]

Not withstanding the theory about how long before Hitler is mentioned in discussions, Hitler could be described as the most successful political strategist of his generation.

Tony Blair would be a fairer comparison.
Both did well domestically but only remembered and hated for for their foreign policy.

 

[fillyboy]

Perhaps we should discuss his 2nd trip to Durham after having returned to London, and the fact it turned out to be a complete fabrication by the press.

 

[pete50]

No fabrication other than that perpertrated by posters on this forum. But if it takes fabrication to get rid of this load of dross then so be it. I notice that the mainstream news outlets seem to have been dumbed down. Now why doesn't that surprise me.

 

[JohnD]

a complete fabrication by the press.

if we start with the presumption that everything Cummings says is true and complete, the press report may in that respect be incorrect, although not incorrect in saying that he went there, and that it is not the place where he claimed to be self-isolating. You'll recall that these points were previously put to Cummings before publication but he refused to respond. he has now had time to come up with excuses that seem to fit the events. This is a great advantage to him, although the "road trip as an eye-test" excuse is risible.

Do we start with the presumption that everything Cummings says is true and complete?

 

[Notch7]

Perhaps we should discuss his 2nd trip to Durham after having returned to London, and the fact it turned out to be a complete fabrication by the press.

deflection.

 

[Notch7]

He's an advisor and political strategist, probably the most successful of his generation.

it depends what you define as the most successful:

I dont consider causing huge division in this country,
using dishonesty and lies to manipulate the public into making this country poorer
for the simple reason of making Tories and their mates richer, a success.

obviously you do, but then youve been brainwashed yourself.

 

[Notch7]

Because he's lying and that's the best excuse he could think of?!

it is a bit rubbish.

 

[Notch7]

I just wondered if I ever get in a pub again and have 2 pints. Is it ok for me to drive to an off licence to check whether I am fit enough to drive home?

 

[charliegolf]

what we do know is that Cummings whole career is built on manipulation of the public.

Like the paper he wrote about pandemics in 2016. He mentioned it yesterday, in an ' I knew this was coming' way. He edited it on the 14th April 2020 to make it read more like he was the one who saw it coming. And whilst he is too swamped on a day to day basis to talk to Blowjob about his plans; and has ****loads of things to do... he found time to do that on the day he went back to work. Nothing to see here, move along.

 

[Notch7]

Froffing bitter toys out...continues..

pointing out that somebody has done something wrong does not mean I am bitter.
what it does prove however is that youve run out of argument.

Im only repeating the sentiment of many angry people that have made sacrifices due to lockdown, but I guess you dont care about that.

 

[JohnD]

fabrication

Start with the presumption...

No, start by considering even the possibility

That the nation's finest spin-doctors sat together in a sweaty room.

"How do we explain Cumming's day out to Barnard Castle?"

Think how they must have laughed when someone suggested an eye-test!

 

[festive]

pointing out that somebody has done something wrong does not mean I am bitter.
what it does prove however is that youve run out of argument.

Im only repeating the sentiment of many angry people that have made sacrifices due to lockdown, but I guess you dont care about that.

Oh behave... fiver says if we had a vote on you on here it would be in favour of you spouting frustration day in day out..

'You voted them in you voted for Brexit now look what you've done...'

Yes everyone has 'suffered' myself included. But if I had to do what I needed to do with my family for someone really in need I would do what I had to do with diligence and care. You hate DC Boris Brexit with a passion any minuscule crack you're there.... bleating.

I guess if I hated that much I'd be the same..no I'd bide my time and wait for the right time this just makes people look petty. What in the grand scheme has he done wrong and he is trying to run our country at the same time?

Now the other day a friend of mine wanted to start hairdressing at a distance?! now that to me is irresponsible.

Anyway time for another day of bliss enjoy

 

[Notch7]

the eyesight thing -deliberate dead cat I say

the main event is this:

Cummings chose to drive 250 miles so his 17 year old niece 'could' look after his child if his wife and he got too ill.
so why didnt Cummings stay in London and have the niece visit if it became necessary?
Why?