Police Cuts, Crime Up

[JP_]

Nah, costs more to have full prisons, best to keep criminals out, more profits from government subsidies.

 

[vinty]

Police these days are more like social workers,they used to be referred to as a police force now they are called the police service which is more user friendly and hopefully create a more compassionate image of the police among criminals.

 

[JP_]

that is another big problem. People used to get help from social care, but the "big society" model decided that care in the community was much better, and that if somebody has a bit of a turn, the cops can just chuck them in a cell until somebody can work out who sort of doc to call. It all works perfectly and saves lots of money. Only a few people needlessly die each year.

 

[Ian H]

Do you think ‘equality’ could be having a negative effect on the police?

Just watched the video of the police woman getting flying kicked and couldn’t help think that a copper chosen because he was a big strong guy would have had the guy in cuffs a lot sooner.

 

[JP_]

I think it is pretty rare that criminals are doing flying kicks. Most people would go down if somebody charged at them like that.

 

[Ihavenojob]

Judges are lefties? Some of the stuff you come out with is mental.

Not all are lefties you utter dimwit, it's just the left leaning seem to be more likely to release someone.

 

[SirGalahad]

Not all are lefties you utter dimwit, it's just the left leaning seem to be more likely to release someone.

Backtracking as usual and talking out of your ass again. Got it. You must utter more incorrect and fabricated claims then Mr Trump.

Why don't you educate yourself? From the secret barrister who may know a thing or two about the law unlike yourself.


Any defendant sentenced to a “fixed-term” sentence is automatically released at the half-way point of their sentence. This is automatic (by virtue of s.244 Criminal Justice Act 2003). It doesn’t depend on good behaviour, or successful rehabilitation, or satisfaction of any other condition. Why? Well, this is something covered in some detail in my book, (Chapter 10: The Big Sentencing Con), but the justifications offered are two-fold. First, releasing a defendant on licence means that the authorities have a measure of control over an individual as they reintegrate into society. There are conditions attached to the licence, usually including supervision by the probation service, and if the defendant breaches those conditions or commits (or is even accused of) a further offence, they can be recalled to prison to serve the remainder of their sentence. The second, unspoken reason, is one of practicality and cost. Prison is expensive, and the budget was cut by 40% in 2010. Locking up all or most prisoners for the full terms of their sentence would push our already-overcrowded and ungovernable prisons beyond salvation. Automatic release operates as a valve to relieve pressure on the system. You may not like those reasons, you may consider the latter in particular a darn unsatisfactory justification (I certainly do), but unless and until there is a rush of popular support for vastly expanding the prison budget, or a radical reimagining of how often we reach for custody as a sentence, it’s easy to see the political appeal. Pretend hardened crims are being handed whopping sentences, then let them out early so we don’t actually have to pay for it. It is equally easy to see how the public often feel misled, as automatic release – although often explicitly stated by the sentencing judge – is rarely explained properly in news reporting

MOD: Please note forum rule 3

 

[Biker1959]

So you learn something every day on here, its not all cant... (yes that is the correct word!)

 

[Ihavenojob]

Any defendant sentenced to a “fixed-term” sentence is automatically released at the half-way point of their sentence. This is automatic (by virtue of s.244 Criminal Justice Act 2003).

Introduced by ?
You also say "From the secret barrister who may know a thing or two about the law unlike yourself." This may be hard for you to take in, due to your patently obvious lack of common sense, that he, being a barrister, WOULD know more about the law than me, a non barrister.

 

[Yafo]

Do you think ‘equality’ could be having a negative effect on the police?

Just watched the video of the police woman getting flying kicked and couldn’t help think that a copper chosen because he was a big strong guy would have had the guy in cuffs a lot sooner.

Once upon a time, obstructing a constable or attacking the police in any way would have been a major crime and be punished accordingly. It no longer has the same punishment and the deterrent has gone. Plus, there were a lot more about, able and close enough to assist an officer in need.

Cutbacks, less police, less jail time is what the cost cutting right wingers wanted. And want more.

You are getting what you vote for, less respect and less order.

 

[transam]

Foreigners ???

 

[Ihavenojob]

Foreigners ???

Naaaah mate Laaaandaaaners, innit. Their mayor Soddin Khant is doing his bit to reduce the prison population, he just lets them kill each other on the streets.

 

[Yafo]

Naaaah mate Laaaandaaaners, innit. Their mayor Soddin Khant is doing his bit to reduce the prison population, he just lets them kill each other on the streets.

What a blindly ignorant post.

 

[Ihavenojob]

What a blindly ignorant post.

Why? Its not too far from the truth, Khan don't give a stuff about the deaths, he could deploy more resources in tackling gang related deaths but is more concerned with anything but.

 

[transam]

Perhaps advice needs to be sought
From that bloke in the Phillipines