Police lives matter

Statistically poor people stay poor down the generations, although it is probably the case that black communities experience structural inequalities to a greater extent than white communties.

They do but what is the structural inequality. Those crime figures I posted and the comment later are interesting in as much the cure for crime is punishment. It doesn't take any notice of reasons for more crime in areas or groups of people. We hear about people being radicalised they can also be criminalised in the same way due to circumstances and what they see going on around them. When we are young while some are probably not aware of it we are very malleable and will pick up ideas and attitudes from others. Education and parents can also have a big influence on peoples attitudes to all sorts of things. History is one of the problem areas. If people aren't given a balanced view they are unlikely to ever have one.

The police have fast tracked ethnic recruits for a long time. What that really means is providing they meet their standards but few take up the jobs when they are available. ;) A lot of white people wouldn't either hence dropping the old height restriction. My grandad encouraged me to join and pointed out the advantages but I didn't fancy the job. When I started work there was plenty of choices. It isn't a job that all will aspire to. Balancing up ethnically other than providing better jobs for some is unlikely to make much difference really.

Clinton wanted to fast track groups. Opinion form a well educated man from Kansas. Clinton's a red we're having none of that. The good ones do get on if they are worth it. Takes no notice of where and how many black Americans grew up etc.

Sounds like we will be treated with the police controlling a crowd on the news shortly. Parliament square and maybe later due to an instruction for demo's to end at 5pm. The majority of protesters will be young when life is seen as simple and things like this are black and white when there isn't a simple solution really.
 
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The majority of protesters will be young when life is seen as simple and things like this are black and white when there isn't a simple solution really.
Now that is what is inspiring this time around...

Protestors haven't generally been as young for some time, but the climate change issue hopefully started a change.

Back in the day students used to protest and form their views of the world, but that was stifled by oppressive police tactics and the introduction of a lifetime of student debt...

I have a feeling that there are so many now with nothing to lose that as someone once said, 'the times they are a changing'!

Hopefully!
 
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Now that is what is inspiring this time around...

Protestors haven't generally been as young for some time, but the climate change issue hopefully started a change.

Back in the day students used to protest and form their views of the world, but that was stifled by oppressive police tactics and the introduction of a lifetime of student debt...

I have a feeling that there are so many now with nothing to lose that as someone once said, 'the times they are a changing'!

Hopefully!

The young obviously don't want the support of older members of the community. If they did, they would have organised a form of protest that anyone could take part in without putting their health and safety at risk. Not very inclusive.
 
Back in the day students used to protest and form their views of the world, but that was stifled by oppressive police tactics and the introduction of a lifetime of student debt...
Hogsht
 
The history aspect is one of the things that need putting into perspective via education.
Agreed. But I doubt if we share the same ideas about how the history should be put into perspective.
My thoughts are very much like your recounting of the different aspects and events of history depending on one's viewpoint and culture.
Currently, UK's history is very much a history air brushed to avoid 'the warts and all', aspects.

The USA in my view is entirely different to the UK.
“when America sneezes, the world catches a cold.”
Many of the aspects of the racism in USA apply equally here. Perhaps not to the same extent, but exist they do.


Slavery is an unfortunate fact
An unfortunate fact???????
Is that your considered opinion of slavery? An unfortunate fact? You do like an understatement.

but here at least I don't think this has any bearing on inequality.
Considering you quoted me, I assume you read my comment.
How can you possibly suggest that slavery has no bearing on equality, given the analogy used by that young economics teacher?
Slavery has everything to do with structural inequality, it is the very cause of it.

Victorian ideas about races referred to as savages, the white man's burden etc probably do have something to do with racism
Probably does have something to do with racism????? You're having a laugh, surely?

but most of the people who might have been contaminated by that have now died out - more recently than you might think.
That's OK then, racism has died out with the Victorians???? Are you for real?

I'll just mention one I have before from working in Dublin. ..Neither of us was taught about both aspects or had the good and bad aspects clarified.
Do you not think that the same applies to the history that is taught in schools in UK?
And reinforced through such channels as films like Gone with the Wind that portrays black slaves as content with their lives?
 
The young obviously don't want the support of older members of the community. If they did, they would have organised a form of protest that anyone could take part in without putting their health and safety at risk. Not very inclusive.
I suspect the protesters are happy for anyone to join their movement, irrespective of colour, politics, gender or age.
Also, Ellal did not say that the protesters did not want older people to join them, unless I am mistaken. If so, perhaps you could point out where he did say that?
 
I suspect the protesters are happy for anyone to join their movement, irrespective of colour, politics, gender or age.
Also, Ellal did not say that the protesters did not want older people to join them, unless I am mistaken. If so, perhaps you could point out where he did say that?

I know of older and indeed elderly people who would wish to join a suitable demonstration. The pictures from London and elsewhere do not encourage more vulnerable members of the community to join. The organisers have (no doubt deliberately) chosen to exclude all but the young, healthy and fit in order to gain the maximum coverage when it all goes tits up.
 
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