POLICE SCUM BAGS and a 2 million reward

[Moz]

hairyjon
"One hesitates to ask what the next step is?..... "





psssst ..... a few cans of lager ..lol

 

[Zampa]

Well done lads you diserve it and just look at the police scum offering 2m
reward you dont see them doing this when someone gets murdered not even for children thats what kind of system we have they can find 2million
reward FOR A ROBBERY but not for child murders

My thoughts exactly...anyone notice how quick they caught the blokes who shot dead that woman cozzer?..the london bombers..and now this mob??..

Its always been the same though..kick the living daylights out of an old lady and get a suspended...try passing a moody cheque in the post office for a book of stamps and you'l do time (well..if your British..otherwise youl be let off)......

Having said that...those blokes who just pulled the last job...are mreant to be 'real criminals'...the sort who wouldnt mug old people etc..because they are 'top men'...a lot of people are saying 'good luck to them they aint done no harm'....really?...scaring the sh*t out of an eight year old kid?..oh thats alright then isnt it..

Thats what makes me laugh with this 'harmless criminal bit...the sort of people who take it out on nonce cases in prison (they shouldnt need an excuse though)...while forgetting they have shoved a 12 bore in some womans face screaming at her to 'hand over the money'..

But..they, like the great train robbers will be punished..30 years maybe?..why?...for nicking government wonga...while the scum on the street who robs maims and beats old people senseless get a community order....

Isnt life strange

Oh and on the subject of the 2 million reward.....would you grass a gang like this up???.... im damn sure i wouldnt...imagine pointing them out in court...the police protection programme would stretch to giving you a new indentity somewhere abroad to live..and a new face!

 

[ban-all-sheds]

while the scum on the street who robs maims and beats old people senseless get a community order....

And what should happen to the scum on the streets who maim and beat people they disapprove of as some form of twisted "law and order" because they think they know better than parliament and the courts?

 

[Zampa]

What should happen to them???...they should be punished in a way that befits the crime...not let off

Im not calling for vigilantes..im saying that they should be taught a hard lesson, but its always the same, crimes against the person go virtually unpunished...crime that involve stitching up the establishment, but not hurting people in the process are taken far more seriously..

Write a dud cheque for your car tax and see what happens...someone did it recently and got 3 months.

Stop paying your pole tax..dont pay a litter fine and see what happens..

 

[hairyjon]

You all have valid points. The sentencing laws in this country have no bearing whatsoever on the crimes committed. The definitions of each crime have become very hazy and therefore there are so many misconceptions. Whilst I admire the efforts made by those that fight for human rights and so on, none of them seem to be able to take into consideration the effects that a crime commited against a person has on that person-the victim.Hairyjon.

 

[mlb3c]

You all have valid points. The sentencing laws in this country have no bearing whatsoever on the crimes committed. The definitions of each crime have become very hazy and therefore there are so many misconceptions. Whilst I admire the efforts made by those that fight for human rights and so on, none of them seem to be able to take into consideration the effects that a crime commited against a person has on that person-the victim.Hairyjon.

i would agree...and i'm talking about America. Justice in most cases is just a word......

 

[hairyjon]

You all have valid points. The sentencing laws in this country have no bearing whatsoever on the crimes committed. The definitions of each crime have become very hazy and therefore there are so many misconceptions. Whilst I admire the efforts made by those that fight for human rights and so on, none of them seem to be able to take into consideration the effects that a crime commited against a person has on that person-the victim.Hairyjon.

i would agree...and i'm talking about America. Justice in most cases is just a word......

Thanks mlb3c. I think this may be true for a lot of countries bearing in mind what happened with Gary Glitter in Vietnam today. Hairyjon

 

[ban-all-sheds]

I hope he does come back...hopefully someone will slice him or engrave 'beast' into his forehead with a branding iron..

And what should happen to the scum on the streets who maim and beat people they disapprove of as some form of twisted "law and order" because they think they know better than parliament and the courts?

What should happen to them???...they should be punished in a way that befits the crime...not let off

I'm glad you've come to your senses.

 

[hairyjon]

I hope he does come back...hopefully someone will slice him or engrave 'beast' into his forehead with a branding iron..

And what should happen to the scum on the streets who maim and beat people they disapprove of as some form of twisted "law and order" because they think they know better than parliament and the courts?

What should happen to them???...they should be punished in a way that befits the crime...not let off

I'm glad you've come to your senses.

Ban- Glad who's come to their senses? Hairyjon

 

[hermes]

And what should happen to the scum on the streets who maim and beat people they disapprove of as some form of twisted "law and order" because they think they know better than parliament and the courts?

Anyone in particular bas?

 

[Softus]

My thoughts exactly

Does this mean that you share the belief that the police are stumping up the reward money?

...anyone notice how quick they caught the blokes who shot dead that woman cozzer?..the london bombers..and now this mob??..

Does this mean that you would prefer that the police take longer to solve some crimes than they currently do?

Its always been the same though..kick the living daylights out of an old lady and get a suspended...try passing a moody cheque in the post office for a book of stamps and you'l do time (well..if your British..otherwise youl be let off)......

I'm beginning to doubt that you have any opinions that are based on reason.

...imagine pointing them out in court...the police protection programme would stretch to giving you a new indentity somewhere abroad to live..and a new face!

I think you'll find that it's witness protection that's needed, but your typo probably occurred in the same way as much of your thinking, which is based on some childish belief that the police and governement exist as seperate entities to ordinary members of society in this country, and that they are somehow in competition with the rest of us, whereas, in fact, we elect, appoint and entrust them to represent, and act in, our best interests.

If you don't like the existing laws, do you do anything whatsoever to change them? Do you talk to local councillor? Do you write to your MP? Anything at all, other than spout nonsense on a DIY forum?

 

[Softus]

...they should be punished in a way that befits the crime...not let off

I'm glad you've come to your senses.

Oh, I think you know that he hasn't - you're being playful with those word thingies again

 

[Zampa]

Softus..point one...no

Two...of course not, but they seem to put themselves out more for some crimes and not others.

Three...I base my reasoning on common sense..these thing happen every day, im no anarcist..im for the police and for justice, speak to the police, I do..im in touch with them quite a lot actually (cant say how but im not a super grass)..and they too are frustrated at the unbalence of our justice system.
Its a fact that crimes against the person are not dealt with as heavy as fiscal crimes...but at the end of the day any crime irrespective of its severity should be dealt with fairly
An example...a beast gets caught with well over a hundred thousand images of kids on his computer...but hes a doctor..upstanding pillar of the community and more to the point...one of the 'old boy network'..around the same time as hes trial another beast was up for having a few dozen..but unfortuantly for him he was an 'ordinary' bloke

The punishment...beast number one gets a virtual let off..a community order, beast number two...18 months in prison

Justice??.....both should have got more IMO but wheres the balance in the scales of justice there?

Take off your rose coloured specs...there is a law for one and a law for others in this and many other countires..ask a policeman...(perhaps the one who was let off after doing 159 mph)

 

[Moz]

regarding Grassing this mob up for the 2mill reward its the insurers who pay the reward , an as a lot of the brass has been found ...the insurers are getting off lightly ,
I personally wouldnt grass them ....even thought you would have to change your life an start again in New Zealand or some place ...

stiff sentences for money crimes against business an Govt especially ...

the way some wail/moan here you would think its something new that money crimes are seen by the aurhorities as more important ,than a mugging say ....has always been the same ,its the way those in power stop everyone/joe public from getting a lil light fingered ...

 

[Softus]

Softus..point one...no

Two...of course not, but they seem to put themselves out more for some crimes and not others.

Three...I base my reasoning on common sense..these thing happen every day, im no anarcist..im for the police and for justice, speak to the police, I do..im in touch with them quite a lot actually (cant say how (that's a bit convenient) but im not a super grass)..and they too are frustrated at the unbalence of our justice system.

Fair play - I was heading in the vague direction of misjudging you, so I'll hastily retrace my steps.

Its a fact that crimes against the person are not dealt with as heavy as fiscal crimesp

I wasn't aware that this is a fact. I'll accept it for now, but ultimately I'll need some basis for you believing it to be a fact.

...but at the end of the day any crime irrespective of its severity should be dealt with fairly

I can't disagree with that!

An example...a beast gets caught with well over a hundred thousand images of kids on his computer...but hes a doctor..upstanding pillar of the community and more to the point...one of the 'old boy network'..around the same time as hes trial another beast was up for having a few dozen..but unfortuantly for him he was an 'ordinary' bloke

The punishment...beast number one gets a virtual let off..a community order, beast number two...18 months in prison

Justice??.....both should have got more IMO but wheres the balance in the scales of justice there?

I'm not clear about whether you're referring to real-life cases, or fictitious cases that serve to illustrate your cynicism.

Take off your rose coloured specs...there is a law for one and a law for others in this and many other countires..ask a policeman...(perhaps the one who was let off after doing 159 mph)

I'm not wearing rose-coloured specs, nor do I deny that double-standards exist. I would like the justice system to improve, and support anything that achieves that, but what I'm suggesting is that that you're the naive one because it's unrealistic to expect anything other than double-standards where human nature is a factor.