Powerflushing Advice

[systematic]

I know you think you've been very canny.

You've bought a boiler from a mate in London, if there is something amiss with it ( not as uncommon as you'd think) who will pay the installer for wasted time? We can't buy an 837 with a flue for under £1k and I buy nearly 100 a year. I think you know what I'm saying.

You are getting one contractor fit the boiler and another to do the system preparation.

So that is three people in the blame game - ignoring Vaillant - if anything goes wrong.

And you'll have a 3 yr shorter warranty than a Vaillant installation partner.

Doesn't sound so clever to me.

I'm afraid this is one punter who will have to find out the pitfalls of a cheap job for himself. He aint going to listen to you, I',m afraid.

It won't just be the power flusher who needs to be told how to do his job. For a £350 combi swap (I assume materials are extra), he will probably need to tell the plumber how to install the boiler too.

Customers!

Mate,

I told you the guys credentials above. Are you saying that his qualifications, ratings, reviews and long term running company is a load of *******s because he charges less than £400 to do a combi replacement? That is very unprofessional to criticise a fellow-tradesman.

None of you know him and have automatically decided to judge the quality of his workmanship based on a f***ing quote!!!!

Do honest tradesman who charge less than the norm automatically get termed incapable on here? Am I to assume that if I pay over the odds and close to £840, I am going to get a better job done and gain the seal of approval from my fellow forum members?

Come off it, anyone charging over £500 for a combi2combi replacement is a rip of merchant and should be reported.

As I said, British Gas charge £80 per hour for chargeable work and that price is CHEAPER than what has already been said above - are they cowboys too?

 

[systematic]

I am Cisco certfied network engineer and have charged many people £10 to upgrade their RAM as opposed to the rip off merchants who charge anywhere between £30 and £50.

I am charging 40+% less than the norm and I know I for a fact my work is top notch.

My point is that there are people out there who can do a quality job for a quality price. It just takes some time to find them.

My hammer is a great site to find a good/honest tradesman. His ratings and high percentage speaks for itself and I am confident that going with him will not be a mistake.

 

[Whitespirit66]

I know you think you've been very canny.

You've bought a boiler from a mate in London, if there is something amiss with it ( not as uncommon as you'd think) who will pay the installer for wasted time? We can't buy an 837 with a flue for under £1k and I buy nearly 100 a year. I think you know what I'm saying.

You are getting one contractor fit the boiler and another to do the system preparation.

So that is three people in the blame game - ignoring Vaillant - if anything goes wrong.

And you'll have a 3 yr shorter warranty than a Vaillant installation partner.

Doesn't sound so clever to me.

I'm afraid this is one punter who will have to find out the pitfalls of a cheap job for himself. He aint going to listen to you, I',m afraid.

It won't just be the power flusher who needs to be told how to do his job. For a £350 combi swap (I assume materials are extra), he will probably need to tell the plumber how to install the boiler too.

Customers!

Mate,

I told you the guys credentials above. Are you saying that his qualifications, ratings, reviews and long term running company is a load of **** because he charges less than £400 to do a combi replacement? That is very unprofessional to criticise a fellow-tradesman.

None of you know him and have automatically decided to judge the quality of his workmanship based on a f***ing quote!!!!

Do honest tradesman who charge less than the norm automatically get termed incapable on here? Am I to assume that if I pay over the odds and close to £840, I am going to get a better job done and gain the seal of approval from my fellow forum members?

Come off it, anyone charging over £500 for a combi2combi replacement is a rip of merchant and should be reported.

As I said, British Gas charge £80 per hour for chargeable work and that price is CHEAPER than what has already been said above - are they cowboys too?

I may be wrong. Perhaps he's new, and needs to build up some turnover to pay back his course fees.

All I can say, is that someone who needs to tout and pay for jobs on Myhammer, and give his labour away at bargain basement prices is either a newby, or someone who is desperate for the work. Very few good plumbers are desperate in the middle of a very cold winter.

As I say, I could be wrong. Give him a go. If it all goes pear-shaped, then you have only lost £350.

 

[systematic]

I know you think you've been very canny.

You've bought a boiler from a mate in London, if there is something amiss with it ( not as uncommon as you'd think) who will pay the installer for wasted time? We can't buy an 837 with a flue for under £1k and I buy nearly 100 a year. I think you know what I'm saying.

You are getting one contractor fit the boiler and another to do the system preparation.

So that is three people in the blame game - ignoring Vaillant - if anything goes wrong.

And you'll have a 3 yr shorter warranty than a Vaillant installation partner.

Doesn't sound so clever to me.

I'm afraid this is one punter who will have to find out the pitfalls of a cheap job for himself. He aint going to listen to you, I',m afraid.

It won't just be the power flusher who needs to be told how to do his job. For a £350 combi swap (I assume materials are extra), he will probably need to tell the plumber how to install the boiler too.

Customers!

Mate,

I told you the guys credentials above. Are you saying that his qualifications, ratings, reviews and long term running company is a load of **** because he charges less than £400 to do a combi replacement? That is very unprofessional to criticise a fellow-tradesman.

None of you know him and have automatically decided to judge the quality of his workmanship based on a f***ing quote!!!!

Do honest tradesman who charge less than the norm automatically get termed incapable on here? Am I to assume that if I pay over the odds and close to £840, I am going to get a better job done and gain the seal of approval from my fellow forum members?

Come off it, anyone charging over £500 for a combi2combi replacement is a rip of merchant and should be reported.

As I said, British Gas charge £80 per hour for chargeable work and that price is CHEAPER than what has already been said above - are they cowboys too?

I may be wrong. Perhaps he's new, and needs to build up some turnover to pay back his course fees.

All I can say, is that someone who needs to tout and pay for jobs on Myhammer, and give his labour away at bargain basement prices is either a newby, or someone who is desperate for the work. Very few good plumbers are desperate in the middle of a very cold winter.

As I say, I could be wrong. Give him a go. If it all goes pear-shaped, then you have only lost £350.

He didn't have to tout. I actually searched for boiler fitters in the local area and filtered the search results by "highest reviewed" - 30+ reviews and an overall rating of 96% is pretty darn good.

The labour isn't bargain basement. It's £350 for 4 - 8 hours of work! That's more than what most people can make in a week!!!!

It's commonly known that plumbers charge too much for their work (not all of them) and if anyone wanted to go into a career where they needed to make alot of money, they should take a plumbing course. They use the fact that the demand and conditions are high to their advantage in a BIG way. Nothing wrong with that it is what it is.

This guy seems to think making £350 for less than a days work is reasonable and SUFFICIENT to get him by. Well it is. In fact £350 for a days work is more than sufficient.

Anyways, rant over.

 

[Whitespirit66]

The labour isn't bargain basement. It's £350 for 4 - 8 hours of work! That's more than what most people can make in a week!!!!

Drain down system, decommission old boiler, remove old boiler, unpack new boiler, fit jig/boiler/flue, make necessary pipework alterations, fit condensate pipework, make good external masonary, refill system, gas safety tests, commission new boiler, bleed all rads, moan about weather to customers - 4 HOURS!!!

Superman must now be Gas Safe registered.

8 hours may just be possible, but at 40 quid an hour he's giving it away. Don't forget, that 40 quid isn't wages.

So, he's either Superman, or desperate.

 

[dreadnoughtheating]

I would like to be a 'fly on the wall' when the Boilers Serial Number is read out to the Vaillant/Homeserve upon warranty registration time. Along the lines of "we'll send two of our best guys round right away, they have blue lights on the top of their vehicle"

Ah, the punters who 'know the price of everything, and value of nothing'.

DH

 

[joe-90]

I would like to be a 'fly on the wall' when the Boilers Serial Number is read out to the Vaillant/Homeserve upon warranty registration time. Along the lines of "we'll send two of our best guys round right away, they have blue lights on the top of their vehicle"

Ah, the punters who 'know the price of everything, and value of nothing'.

DH

Is this a comedy script? It's pretty funny if it is.

 

[systematic]

I would like to be a 'fly on the wall' when the Boilers Serial Number is read out to the Vaillant/Homeserve upon warranty registration time. Along the lines of "we'll send two of our best guys round right away, they have blue lights on the top of their vehicle"

Ah, the punters who 'know the price of everything, and value of nothing'.

DH

Nah mate.

When you purchase something via legitimate means on the net, it is not your fault if you find out that your product was purchased by knock off nigel.

They aint gonna get me for nothing since I bought it off a Classified Ads site.

 

[systematic]

The labour isn't bargain basement. It's £350 for 4 - 8 hours of work! That's more than what most people can make in a week!!!!

Drain down system, decommission old boiler, remove old boiler, unpack new boiler, fit jig/boiler/flue, make necessary pipework alterations, fit condensate pipework, make good external masonary, refill system, gas safety tests, commission new boiler, bleed all rads, moan about weather to customers - 4 HOURS!!!

Superman must now be Gas Safe registered.

8 hours may just be possible, but at 40 quid an hour he's giving it away. Don't forget, that 40 quid isn't wages.

So, he's either Superman, or desperate.

£40 per hour is way too much.

I am a very well qualified network engineer and I dont make that so sack that man.

Most people have said on MANY MANY MANY forums that replacing a combi with another combi can be done pretty quick. I am saying NO LONGER than 6 hours tops.

 

[systematic]

This aint the people im using but check this:

http://www.gascall.com/boilers.html

Boiler supplied and fitted and powerflushed with a Kamco system AND a 3 year warranty for £999

I might give them a call and get a price MINUS the boiler.

What do you guys reckon? £500 or £550 (similar to my quote already).

Sorry I forgot, this company must be a cowboy firm too.

 

[systematic]

One more.

Here's a link showing you a bunch of prices of the work carried and the amount charged.

Some of the rip off merchants are on this list as are the HONEST tradesman:

http://www.whatprice.co.uk/prices/plumbing/boiler-fitting-only.html

 

[Wangerman]

Got to admit north of £800 for a days labour is a bit steep

Crikey I am happy with £200 a day if I can get it.

The poor sods on the minimum wage don't see that in a month

Still if you can command that kind of salary and achieve it good luck to you

 

[Stamina]

Because he is a nupty


Tony

I think you'll find it's numpty

 

[heatingman]

If the boiler is nicked and the serial number is one the wanted list, it does not matter where you bought it from, the police if notified are entitled to call on you to investigate and return the boiler to it's rightful owner.
If after investigation they decide you have knowingly purchased stolen goods you matey are in bother.
If the boiler is returned to its rightful owner you will be out of pocket.

Stolen is stolen doesn't matter if its a car, 1/2lb chopped mince or a vailant boiler.

 

[Aquilani]

The labour isn't bargain basement. It's £350 for 4 - 8 hours of work! That's more than what most people can make in a week!!!!

Drain down system, decommission old boiler, remove old boiler, unpack new boiler, fit jig/boiler/flue, make necessary pipework alterations, fit condensate pipework, make good external masonary, refill system, gas safety tests, commission new boiler, bleed all rads, moan about weather to customers - 4 HOURS!!!

Superman must now be Gas Safe registered.

8 hours may just be possible, but at 40 quid an hour he's giving it away. Don't forget, that 40 quid isn't wages.

So, he's either Superman, or desperate.

£40 per hour is way too much.

I am a very well qualified network engineer and I dont make that so sack that man.

Most people have said on MANY MANY MANY forums that replacing a combi with another combi can be done pretty quick. I am saying NO LONGER than 6 hours tops.

That is rubbish, the guy will have overheads to cover and if he is supplying materials in that figure I'm very surprised. Do you expect to receive any after service for your £350?


If he does it in 6 hours please post back here, I will be interested to know.