Really, in a shop demo kitchen?

[ebee]

Either way, a red flag against using that company.

Which was my thoughts.

And I will agree with you both too

 

[ebee]

There is nothing wrong with screwdriver testers, Professionals should have no difficulty learning how to use them, their safety and their limitations but sadly I know many who have failed to understand and disregard them, simply because they are not in the curriculum but give them a bit of high tech kit like a phone or MFT and they soon sort that. Let's be honest here; far too many electricians seem to fail miserably to understand how to fault find if the number of 'repeat visits' I'm asked to sort out is anything to go by.

Absolutely, it's the basic, lack of understanding.

You, and others, might well be aware of the risks and limitations, fair enough, I`m not getting at any of you for that.
What I am against though is people using them (slightly gifted DIYers, the gen public and a few pretend electricians) placing reliance on them and disregarding risks and limitations.
My comment about them being banned and outlawed was indeed rather tongue in cheek but generally they are not a good idea and best not used - that is a generalisation, a quick answer if you prefer, there`s a lot of people who do not have sufficient knowledge I`m afraid, it`s that that is the problem. I avoided lots of caveats, ifs, buts etc by making the statement, most folk are best avoiding these things unless purely to turn a screw lightly (have removed said neon and resistor first).

quite a few folks gets Electric Shocks, thankfully not all of them get Electrocuted, let`s decrease the likely incidents if we can.

 

[morqthana]

lots of bathroom showrooms suffer from "accidents" usually due to kids not realising that the loo shouldn't be used..

It's when they call out in loud voice "I've finished" that you really need to worry.

 

[SimonH2]

I quite like the look of the Kessebohmer Revo 90 for the right-angle corner cupboards

At my parents old house, dad hand crafted the kitchen. Spent ages with the fronts to make sure the grain from the oak faced ply lined up across joints.
But he made a corner carousel where you just pushed it and it rolled round - no "opening" doors first. And in the home position a spring loafed roller would drop unto a dip in a track to hold it in tbe closed position. It sat on a ball bearing for an Escort half shaft.
And a diagonal drawer - looked normal, but slid out at an angle used some of the otherwise wasted space to give an extra long drawer for foil etc.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

At my parents old house, dad hand crafted the kitchen. Spent ages with the fronts to make sure the grain from the oak faced ply lined up across joints.
But he made a corner carousel where you just pushed it and it rolled round - no "opening" doors first. And in the home position a spring loafed roller would drop unto a dip in a track to hold it in tbe closed position. It sat on a ball bearing for an Escort half shaft.

I picked up an expensive used one, last winter. We had a totally useless corner cupboard, where only the one half got any use, and that so awkward it was a pain to use. So I looked at carousels designs, I found a fancy expensive one on FB, second hand, never fitted, but missing a top pivot, for the vertical bar, which took all the weight. I got it for 1/5th the price. I made the upper pivot, from a bit of timber, with a hole drilled to suit the pole.

It's like a figure of 8, two decks, with two arms to control it's path as you pull each deck out. It's rather a clever bit of design.

 

[SUNRAY]

a few years back it was very popular to fit a cooker (or oven/hob) diagonally across a corner which wasted at least 1.5 base units space and 0.25 base units floor space: