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Damocles said:
If you insist on having a housing market where houses are priced according to what people can afford to pay, not according to what they cost to build

Why do I feel that everybody wants to make this a different economical principle than all other things? High demand with low 'stock' = high prices: high 'stock' with low demand = low prices.

Damocles said:
Only way out is to increase the supply of houses so they become more affordable. Then when there is a financial squeeze people will have a lot more slack and there will not be any sudden market collapse.

Now you've lost me: do you want houseprices according to the cost of building (and why isn't a builder allowed to make a profit?) or by building more houses i.e. high 'stock' with high demand = reasonable and affordale prices (for most of us ;) anyway, still not for all )
 
The bottleneck right now is the planning permission, not what the builders get. That empty piece of ground is worth lots of money. That is the bit I do not like. You can only get a market price for something if people are allowed to get on and build them.
 
Damocles said:
The bottleneck right now is the planning permission, not what the builders get. That empty piece of ground is worth lots of money. That is the bit I do not like. You can only get a market price for something if people are allowed to get on and build them.

So are you saying that land owners should be forced to sell their land and accept a certain price ~????
 
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I imagine that the dreadful performance of pensions has a lot to do with high demand/prices. People have been looking toward investing in developing and buy to let as an alternative retirement fund.

There are so many programmes on television now encouraging people to invest in developing with quite high returns in a short amount of time.

I'm sure that because prices are now so ridiculously high that there are no margins left in developing which is bound to have a knock on effect with regards to the general slow down in property values.

But I'll leave you all with a question:

Since the economy is so strong at the moment and some companies are reporting record profits, does this mean pensions are healthier than they were? Surely with all this money (albiet credit...) surely they must have clawed some back by now???
 
Freddie, not at all. Only that very many more landowners whould have the option to develop their land if they choose to. Getting the best price will still be up to them to negotiate.
 
mildmanneredjanitor said:
I imagine that the dreadful performance of pensions has a lot to do with high demand/prices. People have been looking toward investing in developing and buy to let as an alternative retirement fund.

Do you know that from 1 April 2006 you can use your 'pension fund' to buy property? Don't know the exact ins and outs, but it seems that you (i.e. your fund) can get a mortgage for this purpose as much as half the amount that is in your fund. (Say your fund is 100.000 you can get a mortgage of 50.000) You can even 'sell' your existing property to the fund for tax-purposes, but as I said before, don't know all ins and outs.
A boom in this kind of investment is expected.
 
stu.cutter76 said:
I hope there is a recession and house prices plummet. I am a first time buyer and i everything except grotty one bed flats is out of reach. If there is going to be a slump in house prices i wish it would hurry up!

But, if there is a recession, then leaders will no longer be able to offer you 4x your income, so you'll be no better off, and actually less likely to afford a house.

The only real house price drop (more than 5%) has only happened once. And prices were restored in 1-24 months..
... It's unrealistic to think it will happen again.

To all home owners, you really just need to be able to pay your mortgage for two years at 15% and you know you're covered.
Whether that means a very secure job, or a pot of boiler money somewhere is your choice.

If you have a One account, then why not get an extra 15k agreed on your mortgage, that you don't take out (and therefore don't pay for).
 
Sorry Freddy for not explaining things more clearly.

I'm not talking about pension companies, but your own private pension fund. Small companies (including self-employed) can create their own fund and use the above mentioned new scheme.
 
WoodYouLike said:
Sorry Freddy for not explaining things more clearly.

I'm not talking about pension companies, but your own private pension fund. Small companies (including self-employed) can create their own fund and use the above mentioned new scheme.

Oh sorry for misunderstanding you cause the other lot are a load of sharks.
 
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