Remember Farage's racist poster ?

[Notch7]

his extreme right-wing views, he need shouting down. As does anyone who defends him

George thinks Gasbanni is a terrorist plumber

 

[Notch7]

he need shouting down.

By you?

 

[IWalkLikeHimaMartian]

Sorry you cannot tell the difference between defending the right to speak with defending what he says.

You cannot tell the difference between ridiculing, critising and insulting someone, and defending another's right to speak.
"you really do have a problem with reading."
"Do you think freedom of speech only applies to people who's voice you agree with speak?"
"there's more people than you realise"
"so that's probably why you don't understand it.. ."
"I think you still don't understand."
"Are you doing that side-stepping thing again?"
"I saw that you misunderstood the other day."
"You surely need to understand what people are saying in order to comment? Otherwise you end up saying stuff irrelevant, looking like a numpty and just getting on people's tits."
"I am just pointing out that it is better to join in a discussion if you understand what's being discussed."

Just in the last few of your posts.

 

[IWalkLikeHimaMartian]

George thinks Gasbanni is a terrorist plumber

Not all extremists are terrorists.
Gasbag is an extreme right wing proponent of false news, edited videos from suspect sites, and extreme right wing opinions.
He might get away with his constant barrage of extremism on cc forum, but some of us are fed up with his extremism.
If you did not know the difference between extremists and terrorists, you do now.
But then donkeys are not very clever, except at trolling. They seem to take a delight in trolling.

 

[sodthisforfun]

You cannot tell the difference between ridiculing, critising and insulting someone, and defending another's right to speak.
"you really do have a problem with reading."
"Do you think freedom of speech only applies to people who's voice you agree with speak?"
"there's more people than you realise"
"so that's probably why you don't understand it.. ."
"I think you still don't understand."
"Are you doing that side-stepping thing again?"
"I saw that you misunderstood the other day."
"You surely need to understand what people are saying in order to comment? Otherwise you end up saying stuff irrelevant, looking like a numpty and just getting on people's tits."
"I am just pointing out that it is better to join in a discussion if you understand what's being discussed."

Just in the last few of your posts.

Tell me, when I am as nasty and personally insulting over people's names, intelligence and call all and sundry a racist or a bigot, then you may have a point.

Until then, you come over as a hypocrite.

In the mean time, please learn what is insulting and what isn't, you seem to have trouble with it, just like understanding what is racist or not, or defending the right to speak and condoning what they have to say.

 

[IWalkLikeHimaMartian]

Tell me, when I am as nasty and personally insulting over people's names, intelligence and call all and sundry a racist or a bigot, then you may have a point.

Until then, you come over as a hypocrite.

In the mean time, please learn what is insulting and what isn't, you seem to have trouble with it, just like understanding what is racist or not, or defending the right to speak and condoning what they have to say.

When you defend mine, or yafo's or ellal's right to speak without insults, I might accept your argument.
But as you only ever defend gasbag's, a**e end's or eeyore's opinions, I will reserve my judgement.

Think to yourself, why did you get involved in this discussion........ because yafo disagreed with gasbag, and for no other reason!
You might think you are defending the right to speak, but you are blatantly defending their opinions.

 

[sodthisforfun]

, but you are blatantly defending their opinions.

No I am not.
Do not tell me what I mean.

You can see that I have disagreed with Gas opinions. You've even 'liked' my comments. The difference is that I do not feel the need to shut down the conversation by calling them racist or telling them they shouldn't be given an audience.

As I said, please learn the difference between defending someone's right to speak and agreeing with what they say.

 

[Notch7]

When you defend mine, or yafo's or ellal's right to speak without insults

None of the above speak without insults, so theres nothing to defend.

 

[Yafo]

You cannot tell the difference between ridiculing, critising and insulting someone, and defending another's right to speak.
"you really do have a problem with reading."
"Do you think freedom of speech only applies to people who's voice you agree with speak?"
"there's more people than you realise"
"so that's probably why you don't understand it.. ."
"I think you still don't understand."
"Are you doing that side-stepping thing again?"
"I saw that you misunderstood the other day."
"You surely need to understand what people are saying in order to comment? Otherwise you end up saying stuff irrelevant, looking like a numpty and just getting on people's tits."
"I am just pointing out that it is better to join in a discussion if you understand what's being discussed."

Just in the last few of your posts.

All of those were aimed at me. It might be called intimidation. I call it very rude and personal, and very 1 sided. But I'm big enough to take it, and smile. A very 1 sided opinion is not 1 that bothers me.

But none of those comments were racist, extremist, or even terrorist based, so he has as much right to free speech as anybody else.

But when free speech becomes hate speech I see a difference. Obviously others only see what they want.

Both notch and sodit want to have a go at me and my comments , every time, without fail.

I take it as a badge of pride that they hate me so much. Happy to help them get their fun.

But don't make me laugh boys when you defend extremism and racism as free speech.

 

[Notch7]

All of those were aimed at me. It might be called intimidation. I call it very rude and personal, and very 1 sided. But I'm big enough to take it, and smile. A very 1 sided opinion is not 1 that bothers me.

But none of those comments were racist, extremist, or even terrorist based, so he has as much right to free speech as anybody else.

But when free speech becomes hate speech I see a difference. Obviously others only see what they want.

Both notch and sodit want to have a go at me and my comments , every time, without fail.

I take it as a badge of pride that they hate me so much. Happy to help them get their fun.

But don't make me laugh boys when you defend extremism and racism as free speech.

Good grief, Yafo and Wannabe 2 peas in a pod.

Scary thought

 

[sodthisforfun]

All of those were aimed at me. It might be called intimidation. I call it very rude and personal, and very 1 sided. But I'm big enough to take it, and smile. A very 1 sided opinion is not 1 that bothers me.

But none of those comments were racist, extremist, or even terrorist based, so he has as much right to free speech as anybody else.

But when free speech becomes hate speech I see a difference. Obviously others only see what they want.

Both notch and sodit want to have a go at me and my comments , every time, without fail.

I take it as a badge of pride that they hate me so much. Happy to help them get their fun.

But don't make me laugh boys when you defend extremism and racism as free speech.

Only one of those comments was a bit rude and personal. You are perfectly capable of dishing out too, so please don't get too precious. Remember your dumb down comments towards me? I'd not been mean to you in that conversation and yet you were quite happy to patronise me.

But don't make me laugh boys when you defend extremism and racism as free speech.

Once upon a time this was true:

And nowadays it seems that this is more true:

As soon as people slam down other people's voices with calling them racists, bigots or whatever, the discussion is over. Nothing changes. You cannot ridicule or belittle someone into changing their political or race viewpoints.

 

[Notch7]

As soon as people slam down other people's voices with calling them racists, bigots or whatever, the discussion is over. Nothing changes. You cannot ridicule or belittle someone into changing their political or race viewpoints

Very true.

Wannabe hasnt got with the programme yet, he cant have got the memo

 

[IWalkLikeHimaMartian]

As soon as people slam down other people's voices with calling them racists, bigots or whatever, the discussion is over.

You persistently defend gasbag's offensive, racist, hate-filled comments, on the basis of defending his right to an opinion.
Yet you are defending that right by shouting down his critics, and being unpleasant in the process.
You cannot morally and reasonably defend one's right to be offensive, by shouting down, trying to deny their critics the same right of opinion.
Your argument is incompatible with reason, not to mention morality.

You are either deceiving yourself, and honestly do not understand your dichotomy, possibly acting in blind loyalty, irrespective of the message.
Or you are trying to deceive the forum into believing you are defending freedom of speech. If you are defending freedom of speech, you must defend the offensive post, and the criticism (i.e yafo's comment) of that offensive post. So I ask again, why are you commenting in this thread?

It would appear you are defending gasbag out of blind loyalty, irrespective of his offensive comments, and you have not realised your duplicity.
You do not realise that your one-sided defence of "right to an opinion" can only be interpreted as supporting his opinion.

Message and messenger again.

In addition, many posters opposing such extreme right-wing hate-filled posts have come and gone, himmagin (we know was banned), walkswithturkeys, immartian, roguehanger, and probably many more.
Yet gasbag and a**e end are allowed to continue posting their extreme right-wing comments without hindrance, for more than ten years.
One can only deduce it is because they are a protected species and/or the mods are sympathetic to their right-wing views.

 

[IWalkLikeHimaMartian]

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Quite!

 

[Notch7]

himmagin (we know was banned)

Stop trying to be clever. Himaginn was you, the same person and was banned for being insulting as we all know.