Rightwing Backlash

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would be OK if all BBC employees likened the government to Nazis?

Only the right wing fascist ones.

 

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The difference seems to be the expression of right wing views is acceptable to those in power, but not views that are perceived as left wing ones.

Blup

 

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Its not so much Lineker's views that the right wing hate, it's his profile as an influencer of ordinary people outside the westminster bubble. He is real competition for them.

Blup

 

[Notch7]

Under the conditions which have been set by the BBC for him to WORK FOR them - he's gone too far.
Adhering to the guidance is part of the conditions for him to work for them

in your opinion

theres no contractual obligation, and BBC guidelines give him more leeway

 

[Notch7]

Not as silly as Gary, he's lost over a million quid a year.

He puts integrity over money.

unlike Liz Truss the remainer.
unlike Lord useless Frost the remainer.

 

[Justin Passing]

in your opinion

theres no contractual obligation, and BBC guidelines give him more leeway

That's part of the tems of using him, whether you want to call it contract or not. I'd heard that it was in his written contract - ok that detail was wrong.
I've said many times he can have an opinion, but he went too far.
The text you show says the risk is lower, not that there isn't one , or that the effect doesn't have to be avoided.
He has compromised the BBC's impartiality and damaged its reputation, even with that low risk.
It doesn't give him a leeway to say whatever he likes.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

That's part of the tems of using him, whether you want to call it contract or not. I'd heard that it was in his written contract - ok that detail was wrong.
I've said many times he can have an opinion, but he went too far.
The text you show says the risk is lower, not that there isn't one , or that the effect doesn't have to be avoided.
He has compromised the BBC's impartiality and damaged its reputation, even with that low risk.
It doesn't give him a leeway to say whatever he likes.

Has he damaged their reputation, or was that partly by the pressure put on by the Government to the non suspended Tim Davie.

Double standards it seems. But 1 view point is acceptable and 1 isn't

 

[Justin Passing]

I don

Has he damaged their reputation, or was that partly by the pressure put on by the Government to the non suspended Tim Davie.

Double standards it seems. But 1 view point is acceptable and 1 isn't

Well GL damaged it.
What pressure? I can only find denials.

What double standard? If you gob off a party political bit of crap like GL did,, then sure you'll get objections. It doesn't man that when predictable and correct action is taken, it's as a result of those objections. Regardless of whether the action was correct, or not.

Sounds like you're inventing the "pressure'?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

I don


Well GL damaged it.
What pressure? I can only find denials.

What double standard? If you gob off a party political bit of crap like GL did,, then sure you'll get objections. It doesn't man that when predictable and correct action is taken, it's as a result of those objections. Regardless of whether the action was correct, or not.

Sounds like you're invenitng the "pressure'?

No mention of Tim Davie. Has he not done any damage to the reputation of the BBC. If you don't see any pressure from anywhere that's your choice and opinion.

But 1 sided or what

 

[Justin Passing]

You're the one alleging pressure. You can't point to it so I assume it's imaginary.

What's your problem with Tim Davie? He reacted pretty reasonably to GLs stupidity. That's his job.
He acted to uphold the reputation of the BBC, according to many.
GL can only uphold the BBCs reputation by retracting his gobbery, following by zipping his mouth.

The one who got it wrong is GL. Tell us what you think is the "other side" which in the slightest way justifies his innacurate, unimpartial accusation of similarity to Nazi speeches.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

If you cant see the balanced picture, I am genuinely surprised at you.

Others I understand the blindness, but not you

 

[Deleted member 18243]

Time for one of my occasional reminders that the nazis were actually a left-wing organisation.

National Socialism.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Time for one of my occasional reminders that the nazis were actually a left-wing organisation.

National Socialism.

You sure?

Hitler allied himself with leaders of German conservative and nationalist movements, and in January 1933 German President Paul von Hindenburg appointed him chancellor. Hitler’s Third Reich had been born, and it was entirely fascist in character. Within two months Hitler achieved full dictatorial power through the Enabling Act.

 

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Sky Sports’ Kaveh Solhekol has been praised by thousands as he goes in on the BBC regarding their Gary Lineker announcement


Kaveri said in the clip gone viral: “But a lot of people are looking at this and saying, how come Andrew Neal, one of the most high profile political journalists and interviewers on the BBC for many, many years, how come he is allowed to be the chairman of a right wing magazine, The Spectator?

“How come he is allowed to express political opinions on Twitter as much as he wants?

“How come the Chairman of the BBC, Richard Sharp, the Chairman is somebody who donated £400,000 to theConservative Party, someone who has helped arrange an £800,000 loan for the former Prime Minister, Boris Johnson.

“How come Robbie Gibb, or as we have to call him, Sir Robbie Gibb, who used to be the Communications Director for the former Prime Minister, Theresa May, how come he’s on the BBC board at the moment?

“Why is Alan Sugar allowed to say what he wants on Twitter about political matters? What about Jeremy Clarkson? He’s got a column in The Sun, he’s got a column in the Sunday Times. He was on the BBC. He frequently expressed political opinions, which many people think are extreme on social media

https://twitter.com/x/status/1634279868606173194

They're allowed to express opinions as far as they like without resorting to dog-whistle phrases such as comparisons with Nazi's.
Godwin's Law has really jumped the shark this weekend.

 

[Justin Passing]

If you cant see the balanced picture, I am genuinely surprised at you.

Others I understand the blindness, but not you

If it's so obvious you shouldn't have any difficulty explaining it.
You refuse, which suggests you can't.


Lineker's been a prize, disgraceful nob. Widely criticised.
I can find just one newspaper's article criticising Tim Davie, in an anti-tory newspaper.
That is not in any sense the other side of - - - anything.