Risco Agility 2 Decomission

[larkey]

I have one of these systems in my house, it's been here for 6 or so years without being used, no idea if it was used much before then. I don't have any of the original codes or anything, but I can see the system is at least powered as the control unit has a flashing light, and the sensors periodically show a light.

I simply want to remove the system, but I understand any "tampering" is likely to set off the siren, and I won't have the codes to disable it. Is there any pathway to removing this myself? Where do I even begin if I don't have the codes?

I could get the ladder out and take a look at the siren, but I can't even find a manual online for what it looks like inside. I don't really want to end up in the situation where I've set it off with now way to disable it.

 

[secureiam]

The instruction manual can be found online along with the default codes.

The unit has a master and a dmsub engineers code, there is a fair chance a lazy installer didn’t change the sub engineers code.

post back if the codes don’t work, the manual has the reset procedures I. It also but they may not work if it’s locked.

 

[larkey]

The instruction manual can be found online along with the default codes.

The unit has a master and a dmsub engineers code, there is a fair chance a lazy installer didn’t change the sub engineers code.

post back if the codes don’t work, the manual has the reset procedures I. It also but they may not work if it’s locked.

I've searched but all I can find is the installation quick start guide, and the user manual which I already have a hard copy of.

Even if I got those codes, presumably if they don't work it will set the thing off?

EDIT: OK well the number pad appears to be dead, pressing the * button and nothing happens.

 

[secureiam]

Batteries are likely to be dead for the most of the wireless system, you will probably find that the external siren coms batteries are flat but not those responsible for the sounding part, its a 2 and 3 battery split. you can press the status button on the main panel and find out what fau.lts are currently on the system.

we tend to fins when servicing if low siren battery reported removing the lid the bell sounds but it doesn't communicate with the panel.

 

[larkey]

Batteries are likely to be dead for the most of the wireless system, you will probably find that the external siren coms batteries are flat but not those responsible for the sounding part, its a 2 and 3 battery split. you can press the status button on the main panel and find out what fau.lts are currently on the system.

we tend to fins when servicing if low siren battery reported removing the lid the bell sounds but it doesn't communicate with the panel.

So the status is: all zones are lost, phone line disconnected, external sounder lost, external sounder low battery.

Does the external sounder low battery status mean it's the alarm battery, or just the radio battery? Either way, I assume it's not possible for it to go off unless someone tampers with the sounder itself, so I could in theory safely take everything else out and just leave the sounder on the wall?

 

[secureiam]

unplug the panel and disconnect the panels battery,

The siren is not likely to communicate with the panel but when the bell lid is removed it may still sound.

 

[larkey]

unplug the panel and disconnect the panels battery,

The siren is not likely to communicate with the panel but when the bell lid is removed it may still sound.

"Not likely" doesn't sound like "will not" to me

I'll get the ladders out and ready before I do it just in case, but my plan now is to cut the power to the panel, open it and pull the batteries, and then go around and remove all the sensors. I was planning to just leave the sounder on the wall outside, I assume as soon as I've killed the panel, if the sounder hasn't gone off by then it can't ever go off even if it's had the batteries left in it?

 

[secureiam]

Doesn’t work that way with the sounder.


there are 5 x cr123A batteries in the bell box.

A set of 2 and a set of 3.

One set is for communication to the panel the other fit the sounder.

We have found bells with supervision issues ie lost still sound when opening the lid.

 

[secureiam]

The way your supposed to remove it is place in service mode but you need a working keypad for that and know engineers or master user codes.

But if the communication side of the bell has been lost, even with the right codes you can’t stop it from activating.

 

[larkey]

The way your supposed to remove it is place in service mode but you need a working keypad for that and know engineers or master user codes.

But if the communication side of the bell has been lost, even with the right codes you can’t stop it from activating.

I'm confused now. I don't want to touch the sounder, I just want to leave it on the wall without setting it off.

I want to just remove all the internal stuff, and I was hoping that since it's all lost communication I can do that without setting the sounder off. Are you saying that even in it's "Lost" state some how it's going to activate the sounder when I start opening up the internal panel and sensors?

 

[secureiam]

No.

when the panel says its lost, it means it can not communicate with the sounder, so cant activate the sounder from another device being opened or triggered even if set.
Panels are rarely programmed to sound external sounder when disarmed so opening anything inside the house other than a sounder is unlikely to trigger the external sounder,
The external sounder however if opened can be lost to the panel but still sound if you open the sounder up.

disable panel first(remove power( the panel has a built in speaker this will activate when panel or detection device is opened that is still communicating to the panel,

 

[larkey]

No.

when the panel says its lost, it means it can not communicate with the sounder, so cant activate the sounder from another device being opened or triggered even if set.
Panels are rarely programmed to sound external sounder when disarmed so opening anything inside the house other than a sounder is unlikely to trigger the external sounder,
The external sounder however if opened can be lost to the panel but still sound if you open the sounder up.

disable panel first(remove power( the panel has a built in speaker this will activate when panel or detection device is opened that is still communicating to the panel,

Thanks for the help on this, I've just removed it all with no issues, it didn't make any noise whatsoever.

 

[secureiam]

well at least it is down now, but if detection devices and bellbox have no battery power they cant trigger anything on a wireless system.