Savile again

[sooey]

No I haven't.
But the quote was attributed to the BBC Director of Editorial Policy which sounds a very senior position to me, it was made on a BBC program so if the quote is accurate I don't see that anything else he may have said would lessen it's possible impact.

 

[calorific]

Having watched the ITV program and listened to the women concerned, there is no doubt in my mind that Saville was guilty and if I were a juror, I'd have returned a verdict stating this.

 

[alumni]

No I haven't.
But the quote was attributed to the BBC Director of Editorial Policy which sounds a very senior position to me, it was made on a BBC program so if the quote is accurate I don't see that anything else he may have said would lessen it's possible impact.

Having watched it, i'd say the quote is not quite accurate.

 

[sooey]

was it this one you watched?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19870405

 

[alumni]

No, the David Jordan interview.

 

[sooey]

I've just watched that david jordan interview on the bbc website and he doesn't use anything like the words in that quote.
That leads me to believe that the quote was taken from a different interview, possibly a radio one, but I don't know.

 

[alumni]

I've just watched that david jordan interview on the bbc website and he doesn't use anything like the words in that quote.
That leads me to believe that the quote was taken from a different interview, possibly a radio one, but I don't know.

I doubt he does many.
The words were similar but did not reflect what he was alleged to have said.

Like i said. Things are never straightforward or quite what they first seem.

 

[sooey]

Because we can't find the interview the quote was taken from on google or the BBC website doesn't mean that it didn't happen.
The quote came from a supposedly reputable source so there should still be a record of it.

 

[alumni]

Liz Kershaw

"When I walked into Radio 1 it was a culture I have never encountered before. I have always said it was like walking into a rugby club locker room and it was very intimidating for a young woman," she said."

But we now have this

Paints a somewhat different picture.

 

[alumni]

Because we can't find the interview the quote was taken from on google or the BBC website doesn't mean that it didn't happen.
The quote came from a supposedly reputable source so there should still be a record of it.

As as been pointed out previously - WMD anyone??
How more reputable can you get than the Prime Minister?

 

[sooey]

Liz Kershaw

"When I walked into Radio 1 it was a culture I have never encountered before. I have always said it was like walking into a rugby club locker room and it was very intimidating for a young woman," she said."

But we now have this

Paints a somewhat different picture.

There's a surprise an interview on 5live with two former BBC presenters presenting a defense...for the BBC.
How is that relevant.

 

[sooey]

Because we can't find the interview the quote was taken from on google or the BBC website doesn't mean that it didn't happen.
The quote came from a supposedly reputable source so there should still be a record of it.

As as been pointed out previously - WMD anyone??
How more reputable can you get than the Prime Minister?

Yes that wasd a bad example given by big tone to try to illustrate an example of most people believing a lie.
It was a bad example because most people didn't believe, not the ones I know anyway.
As for putting up a prime minister BLIAR in particular as an example of someone reputable.....do me a favour.

 

[alumni]

Errr,
Because they were there?

Ah, hang on a minute. It doesn't fit in with your tidy scenario so they must be wrong.

The whole thing is a can of worms.
All we know is without a proper investigation and examination of the facts, it is wrong to state definitive guilt.

What you can't do is be selective in choosing what information to accept without first looking into it.

 

[alumni]

Yes that wasd a bad example given by big tone to try to illustrate an example of most people believing a lie.
It was a bad example because most people didn't believe, not the ones I know anyway.
As for putting up a prime minister BLIAR in particular as an example of someone reputable.....do me a favour.

It wasn't about the individual, but the position.
As it happens, most of the Cabinet. All reputable people by position. Yet few people would trust. So why should your reputable journalist be any different?

 

[sooey]

All we know is without a proper investigation and examination of the facts, it is wrong to state definitive guilt.

Like I said, if that quote was accurate and I have no reason to doubt it, David Jordan has already stated it about Savile.

Ah, hang on a minute. It doesn't fit in with your tidy scenario so they must be wrong.

I haven't postulated any scenario, except the one that Savile was a beast in many different scenarios come to that. His car, his caravan, his flat, his dressing room to name a few.

What you can't do is be selective in choosing what information to accept without first looking into it.

Are you saying that those interviews given by former presenters cast any doubt at all on Saviles guilt?