Savile again

[sooey]

Usual media circus. They're fixated on Saville because of who he was. They'll wheel out any number of cranks looking for attention to help them embelish their paper-wasting little rags and the genuine victims will be lost in the frenzy.

My question is what about the ones still with us. Saville is dead and gone so will never be properly investigated or tested in court, but these people are still with us living it up on grossly over inflated BBC salaries and pensions. When are they going to be flushed out of the dung heap.

And that is why some of us have been advising caution.

If the allegations are true, then someone has some serious explaining to do and with luck, they'll have plenty of time and solitude to reflect on it.

Did you think that some people on an internet forum seeing savile for what he was might somehow impede the police from goig about their job of tracking down and prosecuting any others who might have been involved?

 

[alumni]

Did you think that some people on an internet forum seeing savile for what he was might somehow impede the police from going about their job of tracking down and prosecuting any others who might have been involved?

Nope, don't recall saying that, or anything of the sort. As well you know.

 

[sooey]

So why exactly were you advising caution then? (if that's what you were doing)

 

[alumni]

So why exactly were you advising caution then? (if that's what you were doing)

Because redtop readers like yourself(?) latch on to anything scandalous and then conveniently keep quiet when it turns out they were wrong.

I think the sentence you conveniently miss out explains my view, so just to help you:

If the allegations are true, then someone has some serious explaining to do and with luck, they'll have plenty of time and solitude to reflect on it.

 

[sooey]

If the allegations are true, then someone has some serious explaining to do and with luck, they'll have plenty of time and solitude to reflect on it.

That everyones view, that's the one thing that everyone has agreed on throughout the threads.

Do you now accept that savile was a pervert?

 

[alumni]

If the allegations are true, then someone has some serious explaining to do and with luck, they'll have plenty of time and solitude to reflect on it.

That everyones view, that's the one thing that everyone has agreed on throughout the threads.

Do you now accept that savile was a pervert?

Same tired old question.
My view hasn't changed.

Anyway, over your way tomorrow, Bin dipper City. Perhaps you repeating ad nauseum that it's a false generalisation may get me to change my mind?

 

[sooey]

Anyway, over your way tomorrow, Bin dipper City. Perhaps you repeating ad nauseum that it's a false generalisation may get me to change my mind?

I wouldn't have thought it would, idiots tend to make generalisations, and you've certainly proved your credentials there.

 

[sooey]

Same tired old question.
My view hasn't changed.

So you stand by this post then?

If this self appointed "shock Jock" expert has genuine evidence, why has he not presented it to the relevant authorities instead of showing it it - for a large wedge - on TV ??

Victims my a**e.

 

[calorific]

If I may be so bold to interject, I started watching the Louis Theroux program about Saville. It's such a shame that such a character who raised such a lot for charity and had an entertaining personality also seemed to have been such a horrendous c*nt of a man with curious sexual deviances.

 

[sooey]

Given the fame that this guy had, and the esteem in which he was held by so many people (royalty included) as a kind giving man. And given the perversity he practised for so many years on a seemingly very frequent basis on god know how many kids. This c*nts name is going to become synonymous with being a............cnt.

 

[alumni]

Same tired old question.
My view hasn't changed.

So you stand by this post then?

If this self appointed "shock Jock" expert has genuine evidence, why has he not presented it to the relevant authorities instead of showing it it - for a large wedge - on TV ??

Victims my a**e.

Yes, just like all the other related comments I've made. But I see you're struggling to find me supporting Savile.

What is puzzling is your reluctance to answer any questions on the subject.
So, care to expand on why this ex copper who was working on this project for the BBC thought to line his pocket rather than report possible institutional abuse??

 

[sooey]

But I see you're struggling to find me supporting Savile.

So saying "victims my a**e" is not supporting savile? OK

What is puzzling is your reluctance to answer any questions on the subject.
So, care to expand on why this ex copper who was working on this project for the BBC thought to line his pocket rather than report possible institutional abuse??

What questions?? Why do you think it's important that the fella is an ex copper or that he's trying to line his pockets or that he used to work for the BBC?? You've been repeatedly told that all of that is totally irrelevant. The story has come out now, how it came out and who exposed it doesn't matter.

 

[alumni]

What questions?? Why do you think it's important that the fella is an ex copper or that he's trying to line his pockets or that he used to work for the BBC?? You've been repeatedly told that all of that is totally irrelevant. The story has come out now, how it came out and who exposed it doesn't matter.

Irrelevant to you.
You've got yourself a pervert, you've decided. And that's all that matters.

Somewhat puzzling that you're happy someone who promotes his background as he does keeps all this to himself for so long before going public for money.

 

[sooey]

You've got yourself a pervert, you've decided. And that's all that matters.

What planet are you on??

Somewhat puzzling that you're happy someone who promotes his background as he does keeps all this to himself for so long before going public for money.

No one (apart from you) is interested in mark williams thomas or whatever his name is, or his motives. Why are you so insistent on bringing him into it again and again? He or his background has no bearing whatsoever on the truth or otherwise of all of the statements made accusing savile.

 

[Big Tone]

I wonder where the headstone is; what the family have done with it?

They should put it in a public toilet where people can pee on it...

That sounds like you've decided he was a perv tone. What happened to this "legal process" then?

I have never defended Saville or said he was innocent. I have said all along I don’t know and neither do you. One can still pee on the man’s stone if those affected feel so inclined since the body of evidence, together with his own family’s obvious disgust or distain, is sufficient doubt but still not yet conclusive.

Like I said, if a million Christians all tell you there is absolutely no doubt there’s a god, (as indeed they would), the way you have approached this whole matter would be more than sufficient for you to believe in god or indeed anything else where there are great numbers saying the Earth is flat.

So what perturbs me is how you arrived at your ‘hang him if he were alive’ position right from the start before so many came out to speak against him. But that aside, we still don’t actually know – yet - what he did do and to whom or how many.

But given that his own family have had his stone removed must mean one of two things: They think he’s guilty too or someone will desecrate it. If the later, then what better place than in a public toilet for those who have made up their minds.

Keep your eye on eBay for it; it may be the best anyone gets to closure if or when he's found guilty...