Scaffolding/trestles
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on a related subject, any recommendations on a good way of getting tubs of muck and bricks up there, other than on my shoulder? i generally work on my own, i will ask the scaffold guys about pulleys but if anyones got any tips itd be appreciated
In my previous 2 storey I could just step on a couple of blocks on the ground to reach the first stage for chucking muck and blocks up. I did have a ground level that was sloping up slightly though, and out brickwork stopped at the eaves level at ~5M... there was no tall gable end or anything.
Can you elaborate, nose. Do you screw in a few 2x4's to the bottom of the scaff boards so that they're locked in to the jambs, meaning that the trestles only take the vertical loading?
Last time I needed a portable way to get high enough I built a scaffolding tower out of some scrap timber, it was light enough so I was able to just slide it around, rendered/painted a 2 story building in no time. After that I used the timber to make something else.. Took no time to build it, didn't had to go anywhere to get one and the only cost was in screws...
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hahah get over yourself and live in debt forever...
btw that scaffold looks good enough!
I did once use 'put logs' for a particular scaffold. We had a very narrow space (480mm) on one elevation where trestles, scaffold etc would not fit.
I left out 3 bricks along the course of bricks and shoved in stubby lengths of wall plate off-cuts as my put logs. I then framed the platform up from there. Did the job.
I left out 3 bricks along the course of bricks and shoved in stubby lengths of wall plate off-cuts as my put logs. I then framed the platform up from there. Did the job.
Ha ha ha, live in a cobbled together unsaleable dump forever. Could you imagine if wau5 had a missus.
on a related subject, any recommendations on a good way of getting tubs of muck and bricks up there, other than on my shoulder? i generally work on my own, i will ask the scaffold guys about pulleys but if anyones got any tips itd be appreciated
Nobody at all in the family or friend circle has a teenager who wants some pocket money?
Depends how inventive you want to be.. The last house my dad ever built (80s, health n safety attitudes slightly different then) was 3000sqft and had a lot of roof. He did it in his own by welding a pulley wheel onto the driveshaft of his flatbed van, roped up to another pulley at the top of a scaffold tower built on the bed, and used that as a simplistic crane to lift a bucket. I imagine there was an awful lot of climbing that scaff tower and to some extent I do wonder whether he should have just built a larger, sturdier scaffold and hired a crane to lift entire pallets of tiles up in a day.. But this was in a country where, at the time, the phone numbers in the village were only 3 digits. He might well have built the first crane on the island too.
Mini excavators make reasonable cranes, despite many stickers saying not to use them thus.. Bumpa hoists are cheap to hire too, but only really effective if you have two people. Nothing stopping you loading all the necessaries for making mortar up there, just depends how much space you have. Are your internal walls load bearing?
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Cheers for the responses, I'll pass on the DIY scaffold I'm not that brave. Been quoted about 300 quid per lift for about 12 meters of wall which doesn't seem bad to me?
In terms of moving gear up there spending every other day moving stuff and roping in family members is the way I'll go, I'm not on a tight deadline!
In terms of moving gear up there spending every other day moving stuff and roping in family members is the way I'll go, I'm not on a tight deadline!
You can't use a hoist or pully on your own, because you would need to come down to hook the bucket or whatever on to the rope and then who would take it off at the top again as you pull the rope?
If you are on your own the only way to get stuff up is on your shoulder in a bucket or hod.
If you are on your own the only way to get stuff up is on your shoulder in a bucket or hod.
Not certain I agree, woody but I think we're imagining different usage patterns. In my dad's case he essentially built an elevator: load the lift with tiles on the floor, winch it up (and apply brake so it stays up), climb up, unload it, climb down, winch it down..
A hand pulled pulley arrangement would be no different, as long as there is somewhere at the base to secure the rope to after pulling it up, to prevent the bucket falling
Conceptually it should be easier and less risk of injury to use a pulley in the manner described; you do the same amount of work overall because you have to climb up and down each time you unload, but you aren't asking your body to lift more than it's own weight with a pulley. Essentially to get 20kg of tiles onto a roof you've had to raise 20kg up 5 metres, then 80kg of yourself up 5 metres to unload it. That versus raising 100kg of your 80kg self carrying 20kg of tiles (only having one hand to grip the ladder etc)
A hand pulled pulley arrangement would be no different, as long as there is somewhere at the base to secure the rope to after pulling it up, to prevent the bucket falling
Conceptually it should be easier and less risk of injury to use a pulley in the manner described; you do the same amount of work overall because you have to climb up and down each time you unload, but you aren't asking your body to lift more than it's own weight with a pulley. Essentially to get 20kg of tiles onto a roof you've had to raise 20kg up 5 metres, then 80kg of yourself up 5 metres to unload it. That versus raising 100kg of your 80kg self carrying 20kg of tiles (only having one hand to grip the ladder etc)
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Yeah that's what I'm planning on doing if poss.
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