Sex and Gender

[securespark]

Sorry, Mottie, I didn't quite catch that!

 

[sxturbo]

the same can be said for womens sport.

should a trans person be able to compete in womens sports events?

i think not, i dont believe it's fair, and surely it reduces the value of womens rights.

you also dont see women who become men qeuing up to compete in male sports, would they be allowed? i dont think they would allow it as they do with womens sports.

 

[securespark]

I would think one would not be allowed without the other.

 

[Trazor]

You also dont see women who become men qeuing up to compete in male sports, would they be allowed? i dont think they would allow it as they do with womens sports.

They would be at a big disadvantage, so probably would not bother.

 

[IT Minion]

the same can be said for womens sport.

should a trans person be able to compete in womens sports events?

They can, if they meet the current criteria. It's a dull and unrewarding topic, but one that's already been addressed.

you also dont see women who become men qeuing up to compete in male sports, would they be allowed? i dont think they would allow it as they do with womens sports.

It is, in many cases, allowed for Women to complete in the men's category.

In many sports the concept isn't men's sports and women's sports but 'Open' and 'Womens'. For example in Rowing women can, and do occasionally compete in otherwise male only races at high levels. Golf is another one where it does happen occasionally.

The idea is like having weight categories for boxing. That lets the lighter competitors excel without having some 6"8' giant squash them in one round. You're often allowed to go up a category if you choose.

 

[sxturbo]

They can, if they meet the current criteria. It's a dull and unrewarding topic, but one that's already been addressed.

It is, in many cases, allowed for Women to complete in the men's category.

In many sports the concept isn't men's sports and women's sports but 'Open' and 'Womens'. For example in Rowing women can, and do occasionally compete in otherwise male only races at high levels. Golf is another one where it does happen occasionally.

The idea is like having weight categories for boxing. That lets the lighter competitors excel without having some 6"8' giant squash them in one round. You're often allowed to go up a category if you choose.

that may be the case, but the transitioned male still keeps a substantial amount of there strength regardless of hormones.

i know this article is from breitbart and is right wing and usually should be ignored but the study is scientific by sports medicine https://www.breitbart.com/sports/20...e-strength-advantage-despite-hormone-therapy/

 

[sxturbo]

They would be at a big disadvantage, so probably would not bother.

exactly

 

[^woody^]

By "little check", do you mean pulling your belly in, puffing your chest out, and giving the old chap a bit of a stretch?

Crocodile Dundee stylee

 

[IT Minion]

that may be the case, but the transitioned male still keeps a substantial amount of there strength regardless of hormones.

i know this article is from breitbart and is right wing and usually should be ignored but the study is scientific by sports medicine https://www.breitbart.com/sports/20...e-strength-advantage-despite-hormone-therapy/

Yep, it's not a simple question, which is why the sort of crude question asked in the poll is so useless.

Life is too complicated, even before you get to how people transition from Male to Female and vice versa. For very good reasons you don't just walk into your GP and get the relevant bits chopped off on the day.

 

[Brigadier]

For very good reasons you don't just walk into your GP and get the relevant bits chopped off on the day.

Correct; you might struggle to see your GP, if they've closed for the 'rona.

 

[durhamplumber]

I think showers should be kept separate even if there is communal nudity elsewhere. For a bit of gender privacy, if nothing else.

I think that is probably a good comprimise ..We do seem more up tight about the naked human body in saunas etc than many other countries...
Like many issues and laws it is open to abuse eg. Men prisoners suddenly deciding they are Women and demanding their " human rights" for a transfer to women's prison...etc.

 

[JohnD]

Yep, it's not a simple question, which is why the sort of crude question asked in the poll is so useless.

The question in the poll might not be one you like, but it is not useless.

And it is fairly easy to answer.

 

[durhamplumber]

The question in the poll might not be one you like, but it is not useless.

And it is fairly easy to answer.

What if “he” has had them removed?The question is too ambiguous.Too many gender issues around to give yes/no answer anymore...hence the use of person and not “ he” in the original question.

 

[charliegolf]

What if “he” has had them removed?

Then 'he', has de facto transitioned, and is now, 'she'.

 

[JohnD]

The question in the poll is not ambiguous. It is simple and clear.