Shamima was smuggled in by WESTERN inteligence!

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just pumps said:
Indeed. Has anybody seen the programm where she is giving an interview and was shown to be a liar by a body reading expert, little upturn of lips into a small smile, movement of eyes and pauses when answering questions all of which are the sort of things that you cant control and hide.
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Since when has British Justice relied upon 'body language' on remote conversation?
 
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carmanmemoranda said:
which comes back to my comment.

as long as we were not complicit. I don't know that answer, I trust our legal system does, or will find out
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Because she's never been tried in a court of law, for breaking a UK law, the legal system has never had an opportunity to process the issue.
The British courts were side-lined by the action of removing her UK passport.

As far as I'm aware transportation of criminals was no longer practised by UK.
 
MynameisBod said:
This is what you do.... can't you see the damage your doing.

I don't hate foreigners I dislike those who want to harm us or take and not give back.... we will never cure racism with you and your oik turning as against each other.
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:eek: Notch7 is arguing that the courts should decide whether Shamima is guilty or not, instead of the Home Secretary side-stepping the British Justice system. And you think his argument is dangerous?
 
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just pumps said:
Who said the TV program was British justice!
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You were suggesting she is guilty of terrorism, even though she's never been tried in a court.
You were suggesting that her guilt was determined by her body language.

May I remind you of the sequence of posts:
Munroast said:
I'm not seeing anything to even remotely suggest she went there and joined ISIS against her own free will. She's a terrorist and should not be allowed back into the UK
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just pumps said:
Indeed. Has anybody seen the programm where she is giving an interview and was shown to be a liar by a body reading expert, little upturn of lips into a small smile, movement of eyes and pauses when answering questions all of which are the sort of things that you cant control and hide.
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Pat ex said:
You were suggesting she is guilty of terrorism, even though she's never been tried in a court.
You were suggesting that her guilt was determined by her body language.

May I remind you of the sequence of posts:
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In my eyes she was guilty. Did you watch the program.
 
motorbiking said:
The argument was that her pasport was revoked illegally. Nobody seems to be arguing this in her defence team. Do you have evidence to suggest otherwise.
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Are you sure of that?

Tasnime Akunjee, the lawyer for the Begum family, said there will be a legal hearing in November to challenge the removal of Ms Begum's citizenship and "one of the main arguments" will be that then-Home Secretary Sajid Javid did not consider that she was a victim of trafficking.
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www.bbc.com

Shamima Begum: Spy for Canada smuggled schoolgirl to Syria

Mohammed Al Rasheed says he shared her passport details with Canada as UK police hunted for her.
www.bbc.com
 
Notch7 said:
Agreed.

those who hate foreigners won’t, despite the fact she is not a foreigner
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Pat ex said:
:eek: Notch7 is arguing that the courts should decide whether Shamima is guilty or not, instead of the Home Secretary side-stepping the British Justice system. And you think his argument is dangerous?
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There will be plenty if foreigners who don't want he back. It doesn't mean they hate foreigners too.

I myself am softening towards her. I won't object to her coming back.
 
motorbiking said:
Yes - They are appealing the decision not the power. Nobody is arguing it was illegal to revoke her passport.

It is established that the power exists
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Of course the power exists, no-one is denying that, but only to be used in legal and acceptable instances.
The issue is whether this was a legal and acceptable instance?
 
just pumps said:
I dont need excusing from you or anybody else for watching a program and expressing a view.
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Of course you don't, and you are entitled to your opinion. But to claim to presume her guilt on body language is contrary to normal British Justice.
 
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