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ellal, what evidence do you have that the fraud problem is negligible? It's one person, one person. Whatever can be done to eradicate students voting twice, or husbands voting on behalf of their wives should be welcomed by any democrat.

I recognise certain quarters of the political spectrum (and the press that represents it) may 'suffer' disproportionately and those same quarters are the most vocal about allowing such fraud to continue. Ultimately, all quarters suffer if electoral fraud is permitted to continue - Mugabe would not have agreed though.

Nozzle

What about people choosing not to vote at all? Where's their representation ? Milliband suggested 'compulsory voting'. Not the most stupid suggestion I've heard from a labour politician but certainly in the top 50.
 
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43245969

"While 337 allegations of electoral fraud were made across the UK, the majority - 207 cases - resulted in no further action and a further 82 were "locally resolved".

Based on the data recorded by police forces, there is currently no evidence of any large-scale cases of proven electoral fraud relating to the polls held during 2017," the Electoral Commission analysis says.

Only one person was convicted over 2017 'double voting' claims"

So what is your definition of 'negligible', nozzle?

PS. The UK 'electorate' was 45,766,000 as of 2016 - you do the maths! ;)

I've done the maths - of 'only' 337 allegations of possible 1000's, 62% of them had merit. Some of them attracted only "local resolution" - whatever that actually means. Granted 62% is probably not as high as say, motoring convictions from speed camera evidence, but it's not bad. Though I think what you're attempting to suggest as that as 'only' 130 cases of 45mil resulted in any kind of action, then it's permissible to let the problem grow until it's epidemic and only THEN do something about it.

Nozzle
 
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What is a local resolution? These statistics indicate those that are reported, how does this reporting come about, who decide

I've done the maths - of 'only' 337 allegations of possible 1000's, 62% of them had merit. Some of them attracted only "local resolution" - whatever that actually means. Granted 62% is probably not as high as say, motoring convictions from speed camera evidence, but it's not bad. Though I think what you're attempting to suggest as that as 'only' 130 cases of 45mil resulted in any kind of action, then it's permissible to let the problem grow until it's epidemic and only THEN do something about it.

Nozzle
You really do have a problem with facts don't you!

But hey if you have proof of the 'possible 1000's' then feel free to post it here.

The truth is certain individual groups have a political / racist reason to disenfranchise certain demographic groups.

Only they are too chicken to come out and say it directly!

So come on nozzle...

What exactly do you mean by the 'certain/same quarters' you mention?

Put up or shut up time!
 
[QUOTE="ellal, post: 4139276, member: 9402"What exactly do you mean by the 'certain/same quarters' you mention?

Put up or shut up time![/QUOTE]

I mean the hard left, and you have no need to seek clarification as you already know it. Any extremity in politics is going to lead to mass misery. I'm what you would call the "centrist Dad". Shoot me down for that if you think you have to. Electoral fraud should be tackled before the vote is cast, not investigated afterwards as a point of historical interest.

Nozzle
 
How precisely?


Ok. Not so easy to move cash around in cashless society. How many restaurants are used to launder money. How many trades men work cash in hand. How easy is it to pay for your fix with a card or your phone.
How much cash is stashed away. In a period of time all these gangsters with hordes of cash would become exposed trying to get rid of their cash. How would they do it. ?


Bod
 
[QUOTE="ellal, post: 4139276, member: 9402"What exactly do you mean by the 'certain/same quarters' you mention?

Put up or shut up time!

I mean the hard left, and you have no need to seek clarification as you already know it. Any extremity in politics is going to lead to mass misery. I'm what you would call the "centrist Dad". Shoot me down for that if you think you have to. Electoral fraud should be tackled before the vote is cast, not investigated afterwards as a point of historical interest.

Nozzle[/QUOTE]

So no evidence whatsoever for your claims...Nothing new there then!

But claiming mass electoral voting irregularities (because of your political bias) at the ballot box when no such thing currently exists? Well some would also call that an 'extremist' approach...

However I do agree with you on one point - "Electoral fraud should be tackled before the vote is cast"

Cambridge Analytica !
 
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In a period of time all these gangsters with hordes of cash would become exposed trying to get rid of their cash. How would they do it. ?
Bod

Get an offshore account?

But thanks for reminding us what is already happening amongst the gangsters in Westminster and beyond (y)
 
Get an offshore account?

But thanks for reminding us what is already happening amongst the gangsters in Westminster and beyond (y)

Would they not need to get that cash into an offshore account? Would it not raise a little red flag??
 
Would they not need to get that cash into an offshore account? Would it not raise a little red flag??
You (like notch) have no intention of addressing the answers to the questions that you pose...

So stop taking the p iss!

PS. I bought diamonds with my 'cash', shoved them up my arse during the flight and then cashed them in abroad :ROFLMAO:
 
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