Have you considered the Quickwire products?
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T-Connector Plug & Socket
The plug-in T-Connector is a 3 pole plug and socket: The plug accepts flexible cable and the socket consists of two Quickwire solid core twin and earth, loop in loop out connections.
www.quickwire.co.uk
Good to see you - it's been quite a long time. I hope all is well with you and yours.
No, I had not considered Quickwire products, because I was not aware of them
However, as far as I can make out from the datasheet and video, the one to which Suritsoff has just linked does not have provision for a fourth conductor (i.e. a 'loop' terminal. Are you aware of any Quickwire products we do have that?
Kind Regards, John
Look at the switch and load on the quickwire website This is a 4 terminals jb.
This is the link to the page. https://www.quickwire.co.uk/product/switch-load-16a/
Hope it helps.
This is the link to the page. https://www.quickwire.co.uk/product/switch-load-16a/
Hope it helps.
Many thanks.
Functionally, that is just what I need (see diagram below). However, the one apparent issue is that, in my application, the "load" cable would really have to be flex (very probably the pre-wired bit of flex sticking out of the light fitting) and I'm not sure how/if that could be got into their 'push' terminals. It could be that by using their "cable removal tool" (does one of those come with the connector?) one could open up the terminal enough to get flex in - do you know if that would work?
Kind Regards, John
Can you run a 1mill cable and connect to the flex inside your light fitting?
Possibly, if I can get the fitting apart - it currently just has a 6 inch bit of 2-core flex emerging from it.
If getting into the ('throwaway'!) fitting proves problematical, suppose another, but rather messy (albeit virtually never seen), possibility would be to have a second small connector joining a short bit of 1 mm² T+E to the fitting's flex.
You could use a "switch and load" to handle the switch along with a "T-Connector Plug & Socket" to transition from T&E to flex. Both items could then be fed through the hole.
I agree it's suboptimal to have to use two separate items though.
I agree it's suboptimal to have to use two separate items though.
The light fitting is confusing the issue. Can you post a photo?
It was actually murdochat who suggested the fitting (post #5), but when I got one it appeared ideal for my purpose. See photos.
On the face of it, I can 'get in' (to change the lead) by just undoing 8 screws - but I've had unwelcome surprised in the past when opening up such things
I also would prefer to do things in such a way that someone could, in the future, replace the fitting without having to undertake surgery on it. Although 'flex', the supplied cable has pretty stiff conductors, so might possibly work with the Quickwire push-in terminals. ...Kind Regards, John
could you use 1 of each type in series
Yes, that's the sort of "second small connector" I had in mind - but, as you go on to say ...
As for the "T-connector Plug and Socket", the spec says that the plug has screw terminals which are suitable for "1 x Flexible (Class 5/6 conductors) or 1 x Rigid (Class 1 conductors)", so I presume that must be true (although I don't know what these 'C;asses' of conductors are), even though the instructions talk only about the push-in terminals (presumably for the 'socket'). Do you know if that is the case?
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You could try connecting the flex. If that fails, is the well deep enough for you to run t&e and connect using a couple of wagos?
Presumablly IEC conductor classes.
Class 1 is "solid"
Class 2 is "stranded" (conduit singles and similar)
Class 5 is "fine stranded" or "flexible" (flex and similar)
Class 6 is "extra fine stranded" or "extra flexible" (often seen in test leads, welding cables and similar)
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