Someone is trying to start a war in the Ukraine, It's NOT Russia (edit: yes it is)

Mottie said:
I don't think many people appreciate the gravity of a war until there's a chance of it spreading to their doorstep.
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but at least we have the Humanitarian posting stuff we could only find………… by googling ourselves
 
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Last night I heard about this and felt, shut up, no need to shout about just support the Russians, IE Keep quiet and get Russians to overthrow him.

https://tass.com/politics/1416785

https://tass.com/politics/1416785

Will it give people ideas??

I don't want to see anyone killed but I do want this Putin bloke moved out of the office and those his righthand people.

I recall Gadaffi the big man and his last minutes and the last minutes of Sadam. I don't wish that upon anyone, even those that have had people killed etc they need to go to court and be locked up for life showing the world that the free world eventually catches you.
 
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Both sides have valid points and I'm not referring to Putin as I do not trust him just like almost any other politician.

To move forward as I've said numerous times there has to be give and take for better or worse for the better
for all people and lasting peace. However, there are people even on this thread that see "compromise" as a dirty word.
Not sure if they are from the elite groups in Russia/USA/etc and have their own well-stocked bunkers but those in England,
possibly one half baked bunker people hundred thousand people I'm guessing.

IRL I've found it is easier to come to mutual agreements in smaller groups than larger groups.
The problem with the west is too many spokes leaders want their stamp on things
and this leades to where we are.

I hope this ends soon as well as Putin

I recall Sadams sidekick the man with the glasses - he appeared to be half reasonable and this is why the west looked after him but in Russia,
no one close to Putin seems to be very different, I hope I'm wrong

https://tass.com/politics/1416831

https://tass.com/politics/1416831
 
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The Humanitarian said:
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Both sides have valid points and I'm not referring to Putin as I do not trust him just like almost any other politician.

To move forward as I've said numerous times there has to be give and take for better or worse for the better
for all people and lasting peace. However, there are people even on this thread that see "compromise" as a dirty word.
Not sure if they are from the elite groups in Russia/USA/etc and have their own well-stocked bunkers but those in England,
possibly one half baked bunker people hundred thousand people I'm guessing.

IRL I've found it is easier to come to mutual agreements in smaller groups than larger groups.
The problem with the west is too many spokes leaders want their stamp on things
and this leades to where we are.

I hope this ends soon as well as Putin

I recall Sadams sidekick the man with the glasses - he appeared to be half reasonable and this is why the west looked after him but in Russia,
no one close to Putin seems to be very different, I hope I'm wrong

https://tass.com/politics/1416831

https://tass.com/politics/1416831
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Well that’s cleared that up any :rolleyes:confusion than

my source in Russia tells me that Putin does his own laundry due to his concerns about any asssination
Attempt ;)

Potential of some chemical poison being put in his Y fronts ;)

:ROFLMAO:
 
denso13 said:
Old news comrade, I hope you aren't paying for this inside information.
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one just needs to play along with this himantarian bloke
The Humanitarian said:
Grow up and read it before you judge.

it's a NEW more enhanced system, ok!!

OK!!
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Nonsense who told you that yer sauce again :ROFLMAO:

Nothing you have posted up is new :ROFLMAO:

My source in Russia tell a me that
Putin is partial to quality street chocolates

he likes them triangular ones best :ROFLMAO:
 
It looks like this war map is updated regularly. No idea where info comes from.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Ukrainian_War#/media/File:2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine.svg

Interesting that there doesn't seem to be much action in Luhansk only in Donetsk which doesn't appear to have moved much. ;) The 2 regions make up Donbas. Pro Russian there did say a while ago that they were thinking about taking more land back. Perhaps as they are they tie up troops.

Personally I have wondered about an eventual boarder formed by water. One river has been mentioned as separating east from west.
 
As expected, our MP's and ministers went on their long weekend break from noon today and many as from last night. I, therefore, anticipate better outcomes via negotiations.

I've told Boris to send that Truss on hols to sone small island where there is no internet/phone connections as we will all be the better for it.
 
Question ? ( serious)

the weapons being supplied to Ukraine

are always referred to as “defensive “

never offensive ??

anti tank missiles
Anti air craft missiles

is this deliberate on the part of the west ?

supplying war planes could be construed as offensive ?

various offensive missile systems in order to attack this convoy

artillery equipment ect ect
 
The bill that was passed. No criticism of Russian troops and no information about their movement unless agreed by the Kremlin etc. Up to 15years in prison or heavy fines. A country at war so not unusual.

What Russia sees concerning misinformation has caused various media outfits to shut down.

Youtube etc being slowed down to the extent that it is unusable has been mentioned. By reporters that are there.
 
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