Speaker of the House of Commons

The Labour motion from last week, in full

This House believes that an Israeli ground offensive in Rafah risks catastrophic humanitarian consequences and therefore must not take place; notes the intolerable loss of Palestinian life, the majority being women and children; condemns the terrorism of Hamas who continue to hold hostages; supports Australia, Canada and New Zealand’s calls for Hamas to release and return all hostages and for an immediate humanitarian ceasefire, which means an immediate stop to the fighting and a ceasefire that lasts and is observed by all sides, noting that Israel cannot be expected to cease fighting if Hamas continues with violence and that Israelis have the right to the assurance that the horror of 7 October 2023 cannot happen again; therefore supports diplomatic mediation efforts to achieve a lasting ceasefire; demands that rapid and unimpeded humanitarian relief is provided in Gaza; further demands an end to settlement expansion and violence; urges Israel to comply with the International Court of Justice’s provisional measures; calls for the UN Security Council to meet urgently; and urges all international partners to work together to establish a diplomatic process to deliver the peace of a two-state solution, with a safe and secure Israel alongside a viable Palestinian state, including working with international partners to recognise a Palestinian state as a contribution to rather than outcome of that process, because statehood is the inalienable right of the Palestinian people and not in the gift of any neighbour
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So the speaker has basically said that he did it to protect MPs from being attacked by muslims he wanted to give all mps a chance to be seen to vote against the war so that the MPs could go to their constituents to say "look I voted against it".
So now our politics are being steered by threats of violence, but what really gets my goat is that when there is a terrorist attack the MPs all come out saying "we will not be cowed" We will not let them change our way of life - they only want to divide us -ECT But when they are ACTUALLY threatened themselves with an attack - they want armed police protection - they make me sick. - all of them.
 
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aveatry said:
So the speaker has basically said that he did it to protect MPs from being attacked by muslims he wanted to give all mps a chance to be seen to vote against the war so that the MPs could go to their constituents to say "look I voted against it".
So now our politics are being steered by threats of violence, but what really gets my goat is that when there is a terrorist attack the MPs all come out saying "we will not be cowed" We will not let them change our way of life - they only want to divide us -ECT But when they are ACTUALLY threatened themselves with an attack - they want armed police protection - they make me sick. - all of them.
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It's worth noting at this stage that there have no terrorist atrocities by Jews in this country nor death threats against politicians by Jews.

Just sayin.
 
fillyboy said:
It's worth noting at this stage that there have no terrorist atrocities by Jews in this country nor death threats against politicians by Jews.

Just sayin.
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Exactly - its the massive elephant in the room that no MP have the balls to spell out. Apart from it seems Anderson who looks like he is being hung out to dry. My prediction is that he will move to reform and take all his votes with him.
 
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Seems like some 25 year old US Air Force pilot ?? Set his self on fire out side the Israeli embassy in the US in protest over this Gaza caper

He died in hospital

Doubt it will make any difference but hey ho

Similar incidents happened during the Vietnam war with Buddhist monks ??
 
fillyboy said:
It's worth noting at this stage that there have no terrorist atrocities by Jews in this country nor death threats against politicians by Jews.

Just sayin.
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In Palestine, however...
 
Is that your attempt to justify Israel's genocide of Palestinians?
 
I sense a whiff of desperation if Filly.B's resorting to Andrew Lawrence and false equivalence in support of Zionist terrorism in Gaza.
 
ajohn said:
Yawn.
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You watched the debate!
JohnD said:
A silly squabble of no importance. An attempt at political point-scoring.
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A motion that undermines support for another country defending itself (or using disproportionate force, depending on your viewpoint) is significant if or when it is passed by the UK house of commons. Don't underestimate that.
 
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