He has a lot to lose including his tv job. But if he wants the chance to stay in politics its a no brainer. That said
he will take some of his votes with him but most will surely go back to labour.
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he will take some of his votes with him but most will surely go back to labour.
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A couple of reporters have mentioned that the Tory have attracted some Reform types. It makes a certain amount of sense if an MP wants a job. Then wonder about the ERG.
One of their own feels they are in the same situation as Labour, just a different ethnic type group. According to her Labour spent some time trying to decide what antisemitism was and in the end concluded that they needed to avoid any trace of it. Might sound odd but one of the initial comments that caused grief a word could have been replaced by lobby groups. Naming it if it was one wouldn't really help.
Kahn. The ability to hold demo's is nothing to do with him. It's a decision effectively made by the Police. Their comment on the ones concerning Palestine - peaceful. They expect to arrest a few in any demo and on that basis the demo's are. Damage and riots etc they step in - kettling etc and have in the past.
Boris wanted water canons. The ethnic groups in these demo's are mixed. All have the right to vote.
Now the Tory are thinking about law changes, pretty obvious which demo is concerning some of them. Historically these aspects have sorted themselves out. For instance a particular party was banned due to views and the amount of trouble they caused. A number of extreme greens needed to be arrested, Demo's can be held but only in certain ways. There is talk of no protests of any sort in certain areas. Understandable really - it relates to politicians safety and crazy things like breaking up a council meeting.
From the river to the sea, Well another group use it as well. Fact, none of the politicians behind say the PLO feel that it's really possible to wipe out Israel etc as it just isn't going to happen. Hence the PLO reaching an agreement. It's worked out well hasn't it. More and more international sources see that as the major problem.
One of their own feels they are in the same situation as Labour, just a different ethnic type group. According to her Labour spent some time trying to decide what antisemitism was and in the end concluded that they needed to avoid any trace of it. Might sound odd but one of the initial comments that caused grief a word could have been replaced by lobby groups. Naming it if it was one wouldn't really help.
Kahn. The ability to hold demo's is nothing to do with him. It's a decision effectively made by the Police. Their comment on the ones concerning Palestine - peaceful. They expect to arrest a few in any demo and on that basis the demo's are. Damage and riots etc they step in - kettling etc and have in the past.
Boris wanted water canons. The ethnic groups in these demo's are mixed. All have the right to vote.Now the Tory are thinking about law changes, pretty obvious which demo is concerning some of them. Historically these aspects have sorted themselves out. For instance a particular party was banned due to views and the amount of trouble they caused. A number of extreme greens needed to be arrested, Demo's can be held but only in certain ways. There is talk of no protests of any sort in certain areas. Understandable really - it relates to politicians safety and crazy things like breaking up a council meeting.
From the river to the sea, Well another group use it as well. Fact, none of the politicians behind say the PLO feel that it's really possible to wipe out Israel etc as it just isn't going to happen. Hence the PLO reaching an agreement. It's worked out well hasn't it. More and more international sources see that as the major problem.
Er
In London, the elected Mayor – Sadiq Khan, is the equivalent of the Police and Crime Commissioner and is responsible for the totality of policing in the capital (outside of the City of London).
Or is that just city
It feels quite different to me. With Labour it was something insidious that they didn't want to acknowledge during that strange period when Corbyn was leader. The Tories almost seem to be embracing it as a re-relection strategy.
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Palestine.
He mentioned that a different police groups are responsible for different areas. I assume one relates to the central area.
I didn't have any problem understanding what he was saying. All really to do with political interference with free speech and where would it end if he did interfere. The bloke has a point. It's also doubtful if he can really
IMHO. The rules
Protests and marches: letting the police know
Organising a march, rally or demonstration - when you do and do not have to contact the police before the event
Corbyn attracted views that initially related to going and talking to the PLO on the basis that talks are needed even with terrorists. Why do you think he would have things to say about Israel as many have now.
He has a point really but subjected to what was essentially a political attack. Talks are eventually held with terrorists. They even were with the Taliban and those are currently continuing but tricky to set up.
My comment concerning Labour's "initial" problems - one channel broadcasted the comments via a recording.
The Tory ladies comments on them and themselves - who better to listen to as both sides have an idea what goes on in the other. Exaggerated - maybe but given the comments that caused the recent upset and political direction shifts in the Tory I suspect she may well be correct.
LOL Even some of the current talk about demo's has it's racial aspect. Mind you I don't think that aspect will get anywhere but the thought is there.
So MPs are going to get extra protection from attacks
MPs facing threats to their safety will get extra security, as part of a £31m package to help protect the UK's democratic processes from disruption, the government has announced.
Measures could include the provision of bodyguards for MPs most at risk.
Yet when there is a terrorist attack the mps trot out with phrases like "we will not be cowed" - What happened to that.
MPs facing threats to their safety will get extra security, as part of a £31m package to help protect the UK's democratic processes from disruption, the government has announced.
Measures could include the provision of bodyguards for MPs most at risk.
Yet when there is a terrorist attack the mps trot out with phrases like "we will not be cowed" - What happened to that.
Being cowed would mean they had been forced to stop carrying out their normal duties as MPs. This means carrying on with their normal duties, just with extra security. I don't see the inconsistency, myself.
The mayor of London, accused by a former senior Tory MP of being under the control of “Islamists”, is in fact facing death threats from Islamist extremists, the Guardian has learned. Sadiq Khan has been receiving police protection, usually reserved for a handful of senior cabinet ministers or royals, since 2017, of a team of about 15 police protection officers protecting him around the clock.
It also emerged on Tuesday that a man had pleaded guilty to making threats against Khan after Lee Anderson’s comments.
The Guardian
It's rumoured that 10p-Lee is off to the Reform UK party where his rhetoric will be warmly applauded by the followers of Far-rage.
It also emerged on Tuesday that a man had pleaded guilty to making threats against Khan after Lee Anderson’s comments.
The Guardian
It's rumoured that 10p-Lee is off to the Reform UK party where his rhetoric will be warmly applauded by the followers of Far-rage.
There is another factor to bear in mind that crops up in a number of ways. Getting elected. An MP is supposed to represent the population they serve. The none bills could have been held sooner and needn't have had various political party manipulation ideas behind them. The bills had no bearings on the party in powers view. Really crazy aspect is that all one way or another want fighting to stop. In many ways all of these debates were purely electoral. Each state their position.
Unusual - yes but the situation is unusual. Death threats etc, They wont do anything about that down to tiny numbers if nutcases in our population. Any of the parties could still get them or harassment, arsony etc.
What happened - a variation of this
The details of the bill cannot be changed at this stage but an MP can table a ‘reasoned amendment’ opposing the bill. If the Speaker selects the reasoned amendment for a decision, it will be voted on before the vote on second reading
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LOL but no legislation was involved or influence on the party in power. TBH honest I think it was a good idea. For one thing the bills can be read rather than relying on some media source or the other, It avoids whip and division type problems. I also wonder how many Tory may have voted on one of the other parties "bills". If all behave that sort of thing is not a problem,
Unusual - yes but the situation is unusual. Death threats etc, They wont do anything about that down to tiny numbers if nutcases in our population. Any of the parties could still get them or harassment, arsony etc.
What happened - a variation of this
The details of the bill cannot be changed at this stage but an MP can table a ‘reasoned amendment’ opposing the bill. If the Speaker selects the reasoned amendment for a decision, it will be voted on before the vote on second reading
The legislative process in parliament | Institute for Government
A core task of the UK parliament is passing legislation, which begin life as bills.
www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk
LOL but no legislation was involved or influence on the party in power. TBH honest I think it was a good idea. For one thing the bills can be read rather than relying on some media source or the other, It avoids whip and division type problems.
I also wonder how many Tory may have voted on one of the other parties "bills". If all behave that sort of thing is not a problem,
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So is he going or staying? Does anyone have a view?
Given the pressure he was put under - it seems it was fire vs frying pan.
Given the pressure he was put under - it seems it was fire vs frying pan.
I suspect the powers in 2 main parties think stay but a proportion of one go.
After the next election - pass who ever wins.
Can't run the house without a speaker.
Staying. He is well liked and seems a decent, if slightly tetchy man, who is also not super bright. The SNP will hopefully move on from their silly games.
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