Spotlight

[Murdochcat]

OP you are claiming to be a trainee/ apprentice

This is basic stuff you should know

 

[jcaan]

OP you are claiming to be a trainee/ apprentice

This is basic stuff you should know

Yes i started at year 2. I've only been doing it for a couple of months.

 

[jcaan]

YOUR health and safety as well as Wiring Regulations. If you ignore those , it’s only your house and your family. What could possibly go wrong?

I just wanted to know . Thanks for that. I guess there must've been a time when there weren't any regs on this and it was okay to do.... but yeah ofcourse things change.

 

[ericmark]

Well before I was born, 72 now, there are some dates when major changes were made, 1966 earths to lights, 2008 RCD's on nearly everything. And each edition has a date on which designs must follow the new bits, note design, not date of installation, however the PIR/EICR has dropped the "does not comply with current regulations" as unhelpful, and now we have the prospective dangerous.

This can the incorporate changes, so if a installation was designed to use tungsten bulbs, and now uses LED then maybe using a type AC RCD is no longer and good, and it needs type A. I am not saying that is the case, but trying to point out why changes are required.

Things have changed over time, when I did my apprenticeship there were no smart switches, bulbs, or relays, even back 10 years, and we did not have the smart lamps of today, so lighting a kitchen with 16 down lights, was not really a problem, but today 16 colour changing smart bulbs would be expensive, so likely we would look for a system with less bulbs.

I find we tend to add on to a system, so much depends on what one already have.

 

[flameport]

I guess there must've been a time when there weren't any regs on this and it was okay to do.

RCDs have been required for most socket outlets since 1991. Even before that RCDs were required in some circumstances and were often installed anyway.

That consumer unit has a date of 1998 on it, which is very likely when it was installed - in which case it did not comply when installed.
The missing blank on the front needs to be replaced, as there are exposed live parts just inside that opening.

 

[ebee]

how do you think you'll do it?

Whatch an episode of only fools and horses.
One of my favourites included a chandelier.

 

[jcaan]

Well before I was born, 72 now, there are some dates when major changes were made, 1966 earths to lights, 2008 RCD's on nearly everything. And each edition has a date on which designs must follow the new bits, note design, not date of installation, however the PIR/EICR has dropped the "does not comply with current regulations" as unhelpful, and now we have the prospective dangerous.

This can the incorporate changes, so if a installation was designed to use tungsten bulbs, and now uses LED then maybe using a type AC RCD is no longer and good, and it needs type A. I am not saying that is the case, but trying to point out why changes are required.

Things have changed over time, when I did my apprenticeship there were no smart switches, bulbs, or relays, even back 10 years, and we did not have the smart lamps of today, so lighting a kitchen with 16 down lights, was not really a problem, but today 16 colour changing smart bulbs would be expensive, so likely we would look for a system with less bulbs.

I find we tend to add on to a system, so much depends on what one already have.

Thank you that's a great insight and makes logical sense!

 

[jcaan]

RCDs have been required for most socket outlets since 1991. Even before that RCDs were required in some circumstances and were often installed anyway.

That consumer unit has a date of 1998 on it, which is very likely when it was installed - in which case it did not comply when installed.
The missing blank on the front needs to be replaced, as there are exposed live parts just inside that opening.

Blimey, can't believe it wasn't done correctly in the face place.

Is it a big job to get an RCD CU put in ?

 

[EFLImpudence]

I don't want to be mean but -

Why have you started on year two when you do not seem to know even the basics?

Are you starting with a completely blank sheet never having done any electrical work at all before?

 

[jcaan]

I don't want to be mean but -

Why have you started on year two when you do not seem to know even the basics?

Are you starting with a completely blank sheet never having done any electrical work at all before?

Your not being mean mate.

The course only offered from level 2. If you have A levels in anything else. You don't need to do level 1. Level 1 and 2 are similar they say.

I have done alot of DIY before. But not change consumer units etc.

 

[Taylortwocities]

Is it a big job to get an RCD CU put in ?

It’s the equivalent of a heart&lung transplant for your electrical system. If all the cabling, sockets, switches etc are all kosher then it’s not too tricky. The basic way is to do some testing and inspection first. Then fix any issues, then install the new consumer unit.
So is it a big job, that will depend - like everything else.

 

[flameport]

The course only offered from level 2. If you have A levels in anything else. You don't need to do level 1. Level 1 and 2 are similar they say.

What is this specific course, how long is it, and who is offering it?

 

[jcaan]

What is this specific course, how long is it, and who is offering it?

What has this got to do with spotlights mate?

 

[ebee]

What has this got to do with spotlights mate?

Everything.
Flameport has asked a very valid question.
You stated you have started level 2 and he is wondering why, he is not the only one

 

[FrodoOne]

I'm thinking of putting 4 spotlights in a bedroom on 1st floor which has a bedroom attic above it...

Why are you thinking of putting "spot lights" in a BEDROOM?
(In fact, why think of putting "Spotlights" anywhere (except, possibly, OUTDOORS.)?

Spotlights concentrate light in one small area - which may be good for reading.
However, they are not suitable for "general illumination" and cast downward shadows, which are not suitable for "make-up" purposes - if there is a Lady involved !