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[noseall]

Surely it is the bloke choosing the prefix "white" in his user name that is the racist?

Anyone ridiculing his user name can not help but add "white" into the mix.

I have "nose" in my user name so people insult by saying nosefeckall, etc.

The Thanker Klan look dafter every day. Or should that read wa....ker Klan.

Oh I forgot to add these......


Knobs

 

[JBR]

Surely it is the bloke choosing the prefix "white" in his user name that is the racist?

I can't believe that you have never heard of white spirit. It's a common enough product.

 

[Big Tone]

Surely it is the bloke choosing the prefix "white" in his user name that is the racist?

I can't believe that you have never heard of white spirit. It's a common enough product.

Especially on a DIY forum.

If I joined a culinary forum I'd like to think I could use Blackpudding as a user name without being prejudged. But that'd be racist...?

Oh, the pathos of it all...

 

[Whitespirit66]

Maybe I'm black!

Or more correctly - maybe I is black!

The white bit is just a double-bluff.

 

[EFLImpudence]

This thread highlights the stupidity of the present situation where because some obnoxious people use perfectly normal words to insult other people then perfectly normal people are not allowed to use those words for their proper purpose and, of course, the opposite or reverse of those words becomes tainted by association for even less or no reason.

I am 'white' but am not white and 'black' people are not black.
I do wonder why they, whoever it was, chose 'black' as the acceptable preferred word to describe themselves.
Did that not used to be considered pejorative when used in accommodation signs in the fifties?

I quote this from Wikipedia:

****** is a noun in the English language. The word originated as a neutral term referring to black people, as a variation of the Spanish/Portuguese noun negro, a descendant of the Latin adjective niger ("color black").[1] Often used disparagingly, by the mid 20th century, particularly in the United States, it suggested that its target is extremely unsophisticated. Its usage had become unambiguously pejorative, a common ethnic slur usually directed at blacks of Sub-Saharan African descent.

You will note that the first word (actually six letters) has been 'asterisked' - you can work out what it is but it is printed as it should be in Wikipedia because it is not being used as an insult.
It would appear to be banned on this site no matter what the context.

However, my point is: does anyone agree that the word in the quote that I have emboldened sounds just as derogatory? It does to me.

The whole situation is ludicrous. It's just fashion.


I think it similar to shaving one's head.
Skinheads used to be the mark of rough, violent thugs and then the Police began to do it - oh wait - now every sort of person finds it acceptable for some reason.
Now beards have caught on and are fashionable.
Why is being clean-shaven not considered effeminate?

It's all beyond me - rant over until tomorrow.

 

[Micilin]

I agree Micilin. But, and I think this is the point others were making too, if it were the other way around he'd be shouting "RACIST! " from the highest mountain.

Tone- .So people don't really think it's racist, but pretend that they think it is in order to make a point.

 

[Micilin]

EFL - not sure about the point you are making, but are you saying you think 'black' is pejorative?

 

[noseall]

Surely it is the bloke choosing the prefix "white" in his user name that is the racist?

I can't believe that you have never heard of white spirit. It's a common enough product.

I can't believe you have never seen white shoite it's a common enough sight.

Works both ways Chief Thanker.

As I said, knobs.

 

[Micilin]

Back to the OP.

If my new religion decides to stand at a reservoir and declare the water clean for 'Spreadism' by reciting a few holy words off British Gypsum white book, does it change the water that people drink, and would people refuse to drink it?

By all means object to the way animals are killed, but when the presence of a cleric/rabbi/ whatever saying a few words makes no material difference to the process?

If you don't believe in their religion, how do their words mean anything?if you object doesn't that mean that you ascribe some kind of meaning or power to their ramblings?

Do some firms have a joint Kosher/Halal plant with one of each reciting their prayers in separate rooms?

Do Druids bless all round them ?

 

[RogueHanger]

First of all, I've given this some thought, so my comments are not a quick response.

Despite ****espirits explicit racist comments, views and attitude, my corruption of his nom de plume was never meant to be racially offensive.
Even despite the fact that his nom de plume probably derives fom his racist approach.

Secondly, now that it's been pointed out I am aware that my coruption of ****espirit's nom de plume could be considered racially offensive.
So I apologise sincerely for adopting a potentially racist term.

Thirdly, I couldn't give a flying fook if I have offended any of the racists on here with my insults.
However, I do care if I have offended anyone with the use of a potentially racist term. It is totally against my raison d'être.
I am most aware that any casual reader might consider it offensive, and especially for that I am truly sorry.

Finally, just an observation: Isn't it amazing how one potentially racially offensive term used against one of the racist posters on here causes all his KKK brothers flocking to shout "racist", when they're guilty as hell themselves.

I don't normally quote biblical sayings, but on this occasion there is one that is so appropriate:

But Jesus stooped down and with His finger wrote on the ground. But when they persisted in asking Him, He straightened up, and said to them, "He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone at her. Bible. John 8:7

Pity the racists on here don't take this on board.

 

[RogueHanger]

If my new religion decides to stand at a reservoir and declare the water clean for 'Spreadism' by reciting a few holy words off British Gypsum white book, does it change the water that people drink, and would people refuse to drink it?

By all means object to the way animals are killed, but when the presence of a cleric/rabbi/ whatever saying a few words makes no material difference to the process?

If you don't believe in their religion, how do their words mean anything?if you object doesn't that mean that you ascribe some kind of meaning or power to their ramblings?

Do some firms have a joint Kosher/Halal plant with one of each reciting their prayers in separate rooms?

Do Druids bless all round them ?

Very eloquently put, micilin.

However, I don't mind if people object to animals being killed per se.
But to claim that Halal meat is some how more cruel than any other method of slaughter is ridiculous.

We sometimes kill our own chickens here, the neighbour kills his own rabbits and chickens. It's a very common practice in rural parts here, I assume it is all over the world. We don't stun them first. If we have larger animals, we have a choice. For our own consumption we can slaughter the animals ourselves, but if the meat is not for us, it must go to the abattoir. But we always have the choice of using the abattoir, if we want.

Apart fom the fact the we don't mumble a few words while slaughtering the animals, there isn't a great deal of difference. Anyone who claims that they are having Islam forced on them are talking purely and simply from prejudice.

 

[RogueHanger]

He will wait and wait and wait for a post which he can attack and distance himself from his comment. Or post tons and tonnes

Trouble is, this thread is going the same way as every other thread RH posts on. Bringing it down to everyone here is a racist.

I don't know how to talk with him anymore. He's distancing himself from posters who might otherwise agree with him.

Okay, let me tell you my understanding of GD on a social network and a bit about how you come across...

No one is on trial here.
It's fine to ask a question. In fact that's kinda the point of forums.
It's nice, but not essential, to get an answer without trolling or personal attack.
Try using common sense where there is no link and think for yourself.
The law is always the law for any given country and laws differ between countries. So the law can be, but not always, an absolute right or wrong - just what is legal for that country and is subject to change over time.
'Yes' and 'No' are acceptable answers. Use them occasionally and don't be afraid of using them in the context of your own opinion.
Talking of which...

An opinion is just that! It can be right or wrong but "no one is on trial here". You can post well, when you want. But you are hell bent on distancing yourself from just about everyone here. Why? (Troll?). You keep doing the equivalent of barging into a church shouting there is no God. That makes me question your motives.
Talking of which...

A majority support, or a minority support of one, of any opinion doesn't make it right or wrong; even in a Democracy! It is the framework we work within or are forced to work within using the law. (Re: comment above).

Intelligence or intelligent people get things wrong, (Look in the mirror once in a while). Recognise the difference between a SOH and racism.

Disclaimer. Postings are mine and mine alone. Everyone with an IQ >2 knows this. It's common sense. Re: comment above. But maybe we need to formally state this in every walk of life for the aspurgers and posters who come across like spivs or defenders of 'scull crackers' in Court.

Sorry if I missed one or two or coukd have put it better....

Pot, kettle, black.

I understand your tactic, BT, sling enough mud, doesn't matter where or how you throw throw it. Some of it might stick.

Why don't you practise some of that tolerance that you so quickly accuse others of lacking?

 

[Big Tone]

I don't use tactics. If it looks like a duck, paddles along water and quacks - I call it a duck!

Finally, just an observation: Isn't it amazing how one potentially racially offensive term used against one of the racist posters on here causes all his KKK brothers flocking to shout "racist", when they're guilty as hell themselves.

It would simply have been remiss of anyone not to point out to you that a racist comment does not make a racist person Rogue. (As you have shown).

No apology was needed, I knew you were simply turning his name into something disparaging. So maybe you should cut people some slack and chill.

You could turn someone racist with your OTT accusations. (To give a dog a bad name).

 

[EddieM]

Back to the OP.

If my new religion decides to stand at a reservoir and declare the water clean for 'Spreadism' by reciting a few holy words off British Gypsum white book, does it change the water that people drink, and would people refuse to drink it?

By all means object to the way animals are killed, but when the presence of a cleric/rabbi/ whatever saying a few words makes no material difference to the process?

If you don't believe in their religion, how do their words mean anything?if you object doesn't that mean that you ascribe some kind of meaning or power to their ramblings?

Do some firms have a joint Kosher/Halal plant with one of each reciting their prayers in separate rooms?

Do Druids bless all round them ?

I didn't object to the product being offered I only questioned the halal slaughter process based on the little I have read whilst accepting that I don't know enough about to object outright. Any objection from me would be solely on animal welfare grounds.

My objection about this is while I don't have a problem with halal options being offered these franchises offer halal only which to me is divisive.

 

[JBR]

Back to the OP.

If my new religion decides to stand at a reservoir and declare the water clean for 'Spreadism' by reciting a few holy words off British Gypsum white book, does it change the water that people drink, and would people refuse to drink it?

By all means object to the way animals are killed, but when the presence of a cleric/rabbi/ whatever saying a few words makes no material difference to the process?

If you don't believe in their religion, how do their words mean anything?if you object doesn't that mean that you ascribe some kind of meaning or power to their ramblings?

Do some firms have a joint Kosher/Halal plant with one of each reciting their prayers in separate rooms?

Do Druids bless all round them ?

I think you're missing the point completely.

1. I object to halal slaughter because it is inhumane. If animals were completely stunned prior to having their throats cut it would be different but, for some reason, they are obliged to suffer unnecessary fear and pain in order to satisfy the believers of some outdated mediaeval religion.

2. I object to an increasing number of outlets choosing to offer halal meat as the only option (often without advertising the fact) because it is easier to deny the beliefs of non-muslims in order to appease muslims than the reverse. Can you imagine the backlash if the reverse were the case - everyone being obliged to use only non-halal meat in order not to upset non-muslims? Yes, perhaps in France but never in this country. In fact the situation has become such that many are actually AFRAID to upset muslims in even the slightest way because of the inevitable 'racist' accusations.

This country has had it.